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Could you guys, please, have a look ( some larger display would be better ) and tell me if those clouds look ok ?

I'm not sure but I think I have a problem with the display / graphic card.

Thank you

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Just looks like you have shadows turned off to me.

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I have this issue with every flight sim / other sims ....

Something is wrong with the graphic card / display.

But I'm not sure

Thank you

 

LE : are those textures normal ???

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Could you guys, please, have a look ( some larger display would be better ) and tell me if those clouds look ok ?

I'm not sure but I think I have a problem with the display / graphic card.

Thank you

 

Are these blocky artefacts from the picture compression or do you see this in game?

This is how it looks for me + settings:

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I recorded a video, last year ( DCS - F18 ) and there is a printscreen from this video

When I play the video, it looks exactly like in the printscreen.

When I play, for example, XP11, it's impossible to fly through the clouds.

They look like they are burning ( i don't know how to describe )

Something is wrong and I can't figure it out who's the culprit : my display / GPU / driver / cable ?

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Could you guy please, have a look at this video ?

Recorded with the mobile phone.

I'd recommend to watch it on some smaller display

I have a problem and I don't know if it's the TV / GPU / nVidia software

About 3 weeks ago, I replaced the Samsung UE55KS7500 ( after the warranty was gone, issues started ) with Q9FN 55 inches

Color banding / Moire effect / posterization ?

I just did a short test with the DCS ME menu ( video )

Is that normal ? I couldn't see this with any of my previous monitors / TV's

Thank you

 

https://gofile.io/?c=1JfOhs

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Could you guy please, have a look at this video ?

Recorded with the mobile phone.

I'd recommend to watch it on some smaller display

I have a problem and I don't know if it's the TV / GPU / nVidia software

About 3 weeks ago, I replaced the Samsung UE55KS7500 ( after the warranty was gone, issues started ) with Q9FN 55 inches

Color banding / Moire effect / posterization ?

I just did a short test with the DCS ME menu ( video )

Is that normal ? I couldn't see this with any of my previous monitors / TV's

Thank you

 

https://gofile.io/?c=1JfOhs

 

You need to check your tv menu setting and make sure it’s on the correct PC settings. From the video it looks like lag.

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Lag ???

I did everything possible I could, with the TV / PC settings

Do you see those " lines / waves" moving around the mouse cursor ?

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Lag ???

I did everything possible I could, with the TV / PC settings

Do you see those " lines / waves" moving around the mouse cursor ?

 

Mouse setting in windows called trails. Maybe you have very higher than 20/20 vision, I don’t see that in your video

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I'm not talking about the mouse trails

Have a look, please, at this image ( it's not mine )

Something like that it looks like, when I move the mouse on the ME menu

On the whole 55 inches screen, I see some " waves " when I move the mouse cursor

My tv ( Q9FN ) has the best / lowest input lag I've ever had on any TV's, and I used a lot, as PC monitor

https://www.amazon.de/Grundig-47-9980-LCD-Fernseher-Full-HD-schwarz/dp/B002NY8YHM

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I'm not talking about the mouse trails

Have a look, please, at this image ( it's not mine )

Something like that it looks like, when I move the mouse on the ME menu

On the whole 55 inches screen, I see some " waves " when I move the mouse cursor

My tv ( Q9FN ) has the best / lowest input lag I've ever had on any TV's, and I used a lot, as PC monitor

https://www.amazon.de/Grundig-47-9980-LCD-Fernseher-Full-HD-schwarz/dp/B002NY8YHM

 

Well looks like color bleed to me where white is the brightest and its going to show more subtle blooming.

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I don't understand what you mean by " maybe you have very higher than 20/20 vision"

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Well looks like color bleed to me where white is the brightest and its going to show more subtle blooming.

 

So, that's normal ? When I move the mouse cursor, i should see on the whole screen, all those waves???

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So, that's normal ? When I move the mouse cursor, i should see on the whole screen, all those waves???

 

depends on how they made that TV. could be an issue with the type of LCD screen? who knows that's why I don't use TV's they have less than desirable effects on some games.

 

20/20 refers to your sight distance, In 20/20 being the best.

 

I own a samsung 32

 

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-32-inch-Curved-Monitor-LC32JG50QQNZA/dp/B07FQMBWQG/ref=sr_1_17?crid=165E83THBEARN&keywords=samsung+curve+pc+monitor&qid=1558408946&s=gateway&sprefix=samsung+curve+PC+mon%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-17

 

also check your NVIDIA drivers some scaling ability doesn't work on TV's.

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known issues

In a multi-display configuration where both HDMI/DisplayPort audio ports are enabled,

only the primary display will provide the audio.

One Audio-enabled Port

In a multi-display configuration where only one audio port is enabled, such as when one

display is a DVI display, then the HDMI/DisplayPort display can provide the audio

whether is it the primary or secondary display.

Flat Panel Scaling Controls Not Functional for Some TV

Modes in Some Displays

The NVIDIA Control Panel flat panel scaling controls on the “Adjust Size & Position”

page are not intended to be used for TV modes, and normally the controls are not

available for TV or HDTV displays.

However, Microsoft requires that certain TV/HDTV modes be available for all digital

displays, including DVI and HDMI, even if they are not HDTV.

While the NVIDIA flat panel scaling controls are available for those displays, they will

not be functional for the TV modes that appear in compliance with the Microsoft

requirements. The affected modes are as follows:

 1920 × 1080i @ 50/59.94/60 Hz

 1280 × 720p @ 50/59.94/60 Hz

 720 × 480p @ 59.94/60 Hz

 720 × 576p @ 50 Hz

GPU Runs at a High Performance Level (full clock speeds) in

Multi-display Modes

This is a hardware limitation with desktop and older notebook GPUs, and not a software

bug. When multiple displays are connected and active, the GPU will always operate with

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When I move the mouse cursor... all those waves???

 

Looks like dynamic contrast keeping the backlight bright behind the mouse cursor.

 

If that TV has a "game mode" try enabling that. If not, go through the menus and turn every "feature" off. Looking at the link you gave from Amazon, the following things:

 

"Motion Picture Improvement" turn this off.

"Picture Perfect Plus" OFF.

"Dynamic Contrast Plus" OFF.


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I'm using Game Mode, with PC HDMI 1 input ( i tried everything ) and there are already a lot of stuff disabled

When I play another flight sim ( don't call it here ) the water and clouds look very weird

The water ( with small waves) look like it's melting, it's hard to describe

Same with the clouds

I'll attach here another picture, have a look at the clouds, please

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I spent a lot of time searching for solutions, can't fix this

First, I'm not sure if it's from nVidia - software, Samsung 4K TV, DCS World, Windows 10, etc

The clouds / smoke / look so weird, on the edges.

I attached here a picture. It looks exactly as I see it in game

I can make a photo with the mobile phone, but I think, it doesen't matter

Could anyone tell me, please, if this is color banding / posterisation / DCS World issue ?

 

Thank you

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Is the TV display, the culprit ??

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New clouds?

Are you kidding me, right?

Question nr 1 : when should we expect the new clouds ?

Question nr 2 : if there is an issue with the nVidia software, TV displays or anything else, the new clouds would look exactly like they look now

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Thanks, Mustang, I'll try it right now

What about the RGB ? Should I change it to YCbcR 422 / 444 / 420 ??

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If your display would be the error then we wouldn't be able to see it.

 

Just wait till we get the new clouds, then it should be solved/fixed.

 

Yes, I agree with you.

Hardware issue - printscreens ....

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Have you had a look at changing the output dynamic range in NVCP?

 

If you have it on full, try using limited (which is recommended for HDMI)

 

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WHAT'S THIS?? :thumbup: What should i set this to for a 1440p monitor running over HDMI out of curiosity?

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