BonerCat Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Search and destroy advanced fighters unlock There's a problem with the Mirages and MiG-29's in the mission search and destroy Essentially, it's too much effort for the reward You have to fly 180nm for blue, or 230nm for red, in a slow fighter that can do roughly 0.9 mach tops. This takes a LOT of time just to unlock that On top of that, the missiles are only available at those airbases that are 230nm for blue and 220nm for red to the target area If someone wants to unlock the mirage/mig-29 with missiles, they have to fly their korea era plane for some 30min, and then spend another 30min every sortie just to make it to the area with any sort of respectable payload, and another 30 min flying back if you lived For the 1st sortie, that's roughly an 1 hour and 30 min from F-86/MiG-15 takeoff to Mirage/MiG-29 landing, and roughly an hour every other sortie, and that excludes time on station, which won't be long, due to how much fuel you need to get there and back I understand that those aircraft are very powerful, but this just takes too much time to be worth it I think the "Prince of Persia" mission has a good setup, and while I know there are no bases closer to the AO for both coalitions, I think another solution might be better Here's an alternative to how it could be set up: Have the mirages take off from the same airbases as other aircraft, and/or change the unlocking method This could be slinging a crate like with other mission, flying it some 40-50nm in order to unlock the mirage slots, or escorting/destroying some units, or capturing an objective, or literally anything that doesn't take so long to accomplish This would mean that the slots that are available from the start would need to be removed, but it would hardly be detremental. It would also remove the possibility of players flying to that airbase with a plane from main base, effectively bypassing limited number of planes At this moment, it simply isnt worth unlocking those planes If the time to unlock and get to the AO was much closer to what we see in the "Prince of Persia" mission, they would be actually significant again TL;DR Too far, pls fix :D Edited July 6, 2020 by BonerCat Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 Essentially, it's too much effort for the reward ... ... ... TL;DR Too far, pls fix :D The Fulcrum and the Mirage are inaccurate yet deliberately added replicas of the Flogger and the Phantom. I only added them to offer Fishbed and Tiger pilots a new challenge even if limited and limited they should be. You can unlock these advanced jets in Prince of Persia, Open Range and Search & Destroy. Only in the latter it is a painful task to do so and I'm aware of that. Can't move the airbases around. There are no other airbases and having the two spawn at the main airbases would give Fishbeds access to R-60M's. Which is why I thought about removing them from the mission. Then I thought, why bother. Just leave them. The weapons' restrictions brought additional restrictions with them it would seem. Something I can live with because the Fishbed and the Tiger were, are and always will be my main concern on this server. The rest of the modules gets to be invited to the party occasionally or kicked out of it if they bring some illegal items along with them. There were reports of A-10C's smuggling some advanced systems onboard, fancy countermeasures and all that. Not on my party! An order to stay away from the house had to be initiated. Now it's back as an A-10A. Polite to the Fishbed, not too flashy and quite charming as of late. The Su-25T created a massacure with its R-73's. Some Tiger guests started complaining and maybe rightfully so I had to trim it down to a Su-25A. Now the Tiger can easily dance with it and enjoy his party. They'll get along. The Harrier on the other hand is one step away from being thrown out as well. Only waiting on a special party guest to replace it. Not sure why it's taking him so long to finally arrive and show some new dance moves spicing up the party a little bit. The A-4 has been around for a while but was never allowed in. Big boss refused to give it a visa so I can't let it in, although I would love to. Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NELLUS Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 The Fulcrum and the Mirage are inaccurate yet deliberately added replicas of the Flogger and the Phantom. I think a more suitable combo would be the 1978 Flogger-G MLA (which is on it’s way) and the 1970 F14A Tomcat. The Tomcat should obviously have the Phoenix missiles removed. DEVILS - COLD WAR AVIATORS [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/201669484520294 Discord: https://discord.gg/cNrcNhJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonerCat Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Oh, right The R-60 Apologies, I forgot about that one I suppose the bases 200nm away are the only way to keep those planes in At that point you might as well leave them out, but i guess it makes no difference Thanks for the response! Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonerCat Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Umh Something is wrong here... https://imgur.com/o3fxBaN Not a big problem by any stretch, but would be nice to have it fixed :thumbup: Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Umh Something is wrong here... https://imgur.com/o3fxBaN Not a big problem by any stretch, but would be nice to have it fixed :thumbup: It was 6 hours initially. Changed it to 8 weeks ago. Only the text is wrong. Thanks! Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder_50 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I think a more suitable combo would be the 1978 Flogger-G MLA (which is on it’s way) and the 1970 F14A Tomcat. The Tomcat should obviously have the Phoenix missiles removed. +1 [DEVILS] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Server News: - The missions Battle Over Sukhumi Unleashed and Five Points Unleashed will be removed from the server during the day. - In the mission Search & Destroy the 10 x MiG-29A's and the 10 x M-2000C's will be available automatically 1 hour after mission start. - Therefore, no activation from the MiG-15/F-86 is required. Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonerCat Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Thanks! Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 How do Huey's navigate their way to certain areas? Is it the UHF AN/ARC-51 system they use for that? I need this information for the mission I'm currently working on. Thanks in advance. Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NELLUS Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 We took out the last EWR station on Desert has Eyes (which was announced a few times on the top of the screen saying that the Blue would win if Destroyed). When all the units were taken out on the last Red EWR a message popped up saying that the last remaining station has been destroyed. Mission did not rotate or message a final announcement. DEVILS - COLD WAR AVIATORS [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/201669484520294 Discord: https://discord.gg/cNrcNhJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonerCat Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The Huey can home in on a number of different radio signals The ADF system, works much like in many other aircraft, will point the needle on the compass to the source of the signal The VOR system works much like the ADF system, but it operates on a specific set of frequencies, used to navigate to airbases Lastly, the Huey can home in onto a broadcast on FM radio. This can be used to navigate to small radio units, that can be carried by infantry or any other unit (i think) Aside from radio navigation, it's worth keeping in mind that the pilot can navigate comparing the map with what he sees, and if all else fails, flying in a certain direction at a certain speed for a certain amount of time can also get you places if planned and executed correctly PS. Here's laobi's vid on ADF and FM nav And one more vid worth checking out: PPS. I m not sure if this is an exhaustive list of the Hueys nav options. I recommend you look around a bit more :thumbup: Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 We took out the last EWR station on Desert has Eyes (which was announced a few times on the top of the screen saying that the Blue would win if Destroyed). When all the units were taken out on the last Red EWR a message popped up saying that the last remaining station has been destroyed. Mission did not rotate or message a final announcement. It doesn't say "server will rotate..." or the like, so why expect it to happen? The rotation in this mission was taken out due to a script failure caused by it if a coalition wins. This was announced some months ago. I'm rebuilding multiple things in the mission to find the problem. Takes a while. The Huey can home in on a number of different radio signals The ADF system, works much like in many other aircraft, will point the needle on the compass to the source of the signal The VOR system works much like the ADF system, but it operates on a specific set of frequencies, used to navigate to airbases Lastly, the Huey can home in onto a broadcast on FM radio. This can be used to navigate to small radio units, that can be carried by infantry or any other unit (i think) Aside from radio navigation, it's worth keeping in mind that the pilot can navigate comparing the map with what he sees, and if all else fails, flying in a certain direction at a certain speed for a certain amount of time can also get you places if planned and executed correctly PS. Here's laobi's vid on ADF and FM nav And one more vid worth checking out: PPS. I m not sure if this is an exhaustive list of the Hueys nav options. I recommend you look around a bit more :thumbup: Thanks for the input. However, the ARC-51 is the only thing a mission designer can touch in the mission editor. Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolovay Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 The Huey can home in on a number of different radio signals The ADF system, works much like in many other aircraft, will point the needle on the compass to the source of the signal The VOR system works much like the ADF system, but it operates on a specific set of frequencies, used to navigate to airbases Lastly, the Huey can home in onto a broadcast on FM radio. This can be used to navigate to small radio units, that can be carried by infantry or any other unit (i think) Aside from radio navigation, it's worth keeping in mind that the pilot can navigate comparing the map with what he sees, and if all else fails, flying in a certain direction at a certain speed for a certain amount of time can also get you places if planned and executed correctly PS. Here's laobi's vid on ADF and FM nav And one more vid worth checking out: PPS. I m not sure if this is an exhaustive list of the Hueys nav options. I recommend you look around a bit more :thumbup: Kneeboard and F10 map are all you need in DCS. No need for learning navigation instruments in details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I would like to see shorter mission rotation times, I want to play Fight Island more often :lol: By the way, don't know if that was what was discussed, but you can setup pseudo NDB/VOR stations for navigation, with the ME and some triggers. 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 I would like to see shorter mission rotation times, I want to play Fight Island more often :lol: By the way, don't know if that was what was discussed, but you can setup pseudo NDB/VOR stations for navigation, with the ME and some triggers. Fight Island should be online tonight. I'm aware of setting up NDB's and VOR's. Just needed to understand a thing or two regarding the Huey as I happen to fly Red aircraft only :smilewink: Although the Huey could win me over. Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolovay Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Fight Island should be online tonight. I'm aware of setting up NDB's and VOR's. Just needed to understand a thing or two regarding the Huey as I happen to fly Red aircraft only :smilewink: Although the Huey could win me over. Haha, Yesterday I ****ed up EWR2 site in the crater by myself with a huey and miniguns :D :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Fight Island should be online tonight. I'm aware of setting up NDB's and VOR's. Just needed to understand a thing or two regarding the Huey as I happen to fly Red aircraft only :smilewink: Although the Huey could win me over. Ah yes, the only evening of the week in which I won't be able to play :lol: Anyway, hit me up if you got questions regarding the huey, just a plain, basic, man's helicopter ! 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonerCat Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 In the mission "Sail ahoy" blue awacs lands some 30 min before mission restart. I'd assume runs out of fuel Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, M-2000C, A-10C, A-10C II, AV-8B N/A, MiG-29, Su-33, MiG-21 Bis, F-5E, P-51D, Ka-50, Mi-8, Sa 342, UH-1H, Combined Arms Maps and others: Persian Gulf, Syria, Normandy, WWII Assets, NS 430 + Mi-8 NS 430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkongdk Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 sorry sorry Hello Cold War server administrator, I have a dcs player friend from China who was not very clear about the rules while playing on the Cold War server.He couldn't come to the forum to apologize because he couldn't get a robot to verify in China.His id is flanker不会飞 and his English is very poor. He attacked the untaken aircraft on the main airport and was blocked by the server. He felt very guilty and apologized for his behavior, hoping to get forgiveness and to be unsealed to join the DCS cold war server again. :哭: Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C,F/A-18C, MiG-21 Bis, AV-8B N/A, SU27,AJS37,Ka-50, Combined Arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Hello Cold War server administrator, I have a dcs player friend from China who was not very clear about the rules while playing on the Cold War server.He couldn't come to the forum to apologize because he couldn't get a robot to verify in China.His id is flanker不会飞 and his English is very poor. He attacked the untaken aircraft on the main airport and was blocked by the server. He felt very guilty and apologized for his behavior, hoping to get forgiveness and to be unsealed to join the DCS cold war server again. :哭: Hello to you and your friend! He took off from friendly airbase Gudauta, turned back around and started strafing friendly units including players on the runway. He was warned multiple times but that's not necessary. You don't need to understand English or any language to know such behaviour is surely prohibited. Oh, and he did that several times before. On that night I was online and finally caught him. The ban stays. S! Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkongdk Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Hello to you and your friend! He took off from friendly airbase Gudauta, turned back around and started strafing friendly units including players on the runway. He was warned multiple times but that's not necessary. You don't need to understand English or any language to know such behaviour is surely prohibited. Oh, and he did that several times before. On that night I was online and finally caught him. The ban stays. S! Flanker不会飞 said that he had never maliciously attacked friendly forces (apologized if he accidentally laid it down). He suddenly found that he could not get to the server a few months ago, and the last time he was on the server was not in Gudauta. Is there any misunderstanding? Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C,F/A-18C, MiG-21 Bis, AV-8B N/A, SU27,AJS37,Ka-50, Combined Arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolovay Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Flanker不会飞 said that he had never maliciously attacked friendly forces (apologized if he accidentally laid it down). He suddenly found that he could not get to the server a few months ago, and the last time he was on the server was not in Gudauta. Is there any misunderstanding? Tacview logs are not wrong. And Alpenwolf have full support from us, other players about that kind of a behave, which frankly, is very odd. Who does attack same side?? If he does not understand english, than this is not server for him. Sorry. Let him choose Chinese one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkongdk Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Tacview logs are not wrong. And Alpenwolf have full support from us, other players about that kind of a behave, which frankly, is very odd. Who does attack same side?? If he does not understand english, than this is not server for him. Sorry. Let him choose Chinese one. That day, Flanker不会飞 suddenly found that he could not connect to the Cold War server (it was not that he was banned online). Later, he asked his Friends who knew English and thought that the reason for the ban was that he was attacking the enemy's main base. Later, he asked me to apologize in the forum, but he said that he never attacked the friendly troops parked on the runway. Modules: F-14, F-15C, F-16C,F/A-18C, MiG-21 Bis, AV-8B N/A, SU27,AJS37,Ka-50, Combined Arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 If he does not understand english, than this is not server for him. Sorry. Let him choose Chinese one. This server is for everyone. That day, Flanker不会飞 suddenly found that he could not connect to the Cold War server (it was not that he was banned online). Later, he asked his Friends who knew English and thought that the reason for the ban was that he was attacking the enemy's main base. Later, he asked me to apologize in the forum, but he said that he never attacked the friendly troops parked on the runway. If you want to continue this conversation, by all means. However, I advice you and others to do it through private messaging to avoid any interference. Trust me, the last thing I want is to ban players for a long time or permanently. No joy in doing that. But if I have to, I do it. Case closed, please. Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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