Bolter?

Will the ability to bolter be modeled?

Apologies in advance if this doesn't have to be modeled.

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What do you mean by that? The possibility of missing the wires and going around is already there with the Stennis and Kuznetsov. If you mean hook skip (i.e. not catching a wire although you land in the proper zone on the carrier), that is aircraft specific AFAIK (the hornet has it, the tomcat not yet).

Well, I guess I mean bolter in the sense of not catching the third wire on the carrier and thus having to go around and try again.

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Currently, if you miss any wire you bolter. Have you done any carrier ops yet? I see you're new to the forums, but not sure if you're new to DCS. I bolter all the time, so yes you can. :)

Well, I guess I mean bolter in the sense of not catching the third wire on the carrier and thus having to go around and try again.

In that case absolutely yes, it's functionality already present on aircraft carriers currently implemented.

I tried my first F1 carrier landing in the F14, Jester got rather sarcastic the number of times I boltered! Got there in the end but he was pretty hungry :)

I mean bolter in the sense of not catching the third wire on the carrier and thus having to go around and try again.

Along with many, many other things, the wires are modelled and the hook is modelled.

If you catch any wire - not just the third - you'll land, if you don't you'll do a bolter.

Can land the hornet fairly consistent on the stennis .

But I hardly ever catch the third wire :p

i just wish jester would recognize a trap. he calls my traps bolters a lot.

i just wish jester would recognize a trap. he calls my traps bolters a lot.

That's because they are bolters. Or will be, once the hook skip modeling is in place. Jester is calling them accurately, it's the game that's fudging things.

You have a lot of faith in Jester to be able to say that so positively without seeing a track...

You have a lot of faith in Jester to be able to say that so positively without seeing a track...

Quite the opposite. DCS's carrier and the F-14 module isn't modeled accurately enough during landings. Jester is just reading the AOA and speed and reacting to what it SHOULD be, not what DCS is fudging. If Jester is calling bolter, you're doing it wrong.

If he calls bolter, you came in way too hard. If he does it with an acls landing, it was prolly a deck pitching too hard.

 

What happens when you come in too hard is that you prolly skip jump a wire, or your gears take off again, while your hook is holding you back. For Jester, unfortunately there is no better way for telling if it is a bolter or not, than you getting the gear down or back up in the air again.

 

I will talk to swither, if for bolter calls, maybe small delay would help, in his detection I mean.

 

But in general: it does point to bad landing behavior. You are either coming in too fast, or too steep, or combination of both.

 

We also plan on improving the damage model for carrier landings. Some of the traps I have seen will rip your hook off and so forth

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