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Hello. Next week i'm getting a new rig and i'd like some oppinions on my choices.

 

The first question is the CPU: my choice is

 

Intel Core i3 8350K 4.00GHz Socket 1151v2.

 

Is it good enough for good multiplayer fps?

 

Memory: 32 gb DDR4 @ 2400 MHz.

 

Video: GeForce RTX 2070 WindForce 3X 8GB GDDR6 256 bit.

 

SSD 512 GB on M.2 socket.

 

Will that do?

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Hello. Next week i'm getting a new rig and i'd like some oppinions on my choices.

 

The first question is the CPU: my choice is

 

Intel Core i3 8350K 4.00GHz Socket 1151v2.

 

Is it good enough for good multiplayer fps?

 

Memory: 32 gb DDR4 @ 2400 MHz.

 

Video: GeForce RTX 2070 WindForce 3X 8GB GDDR6 256 bit.

 

SSD 512 GB on M.2 socket.

 

Will that do?

 

 

Looks like a great system for DCS! Good choice of CPU and graphics card. A couple things:

 

The CPU is a K-type, which can be easily overclocked. Make sure you get a motherboard that supports overclocking.

 

Make sure you get an NVMe SSD, some M.2 drives are only SATA drives (slow) and not true NVMe (very fast). If you've never run DCS from an NVMe drive before, you'll love it, it makes loading times much more merciful :)

 

If by "good" FPS you mean the 200-300+ FPS that shooter gamers like to mouth off about, no, it won't even come close, and nothing will :) Expect maybe 40 FPS minimum at all max settings over very built-up areas, usually higher than that, which is still fine for flight simming.

 

With the new Nvidia drivers out, I *highly* recommend using a FreeSync monitor, because the 418.81 Nvidia driver works great with FreeSync. G-Sync/FreeSync is adaptive refresh, and flight sims are really nice with it enabled--nice, smooth, lifelike motion, even at lower framerates (under 40) instead of the jittery, un-even motion/stutter-fest you normally get, even at higher framerates.

 

 

Power supply--don't be one of those idiots that buys a 1200W PSU for a one-CPU, one-card gaming rig :) Probably 500-600W is fine and there's no advantage to going drastic overkill just for mouthing-off rights. The new graphics cards use less electricity than older ones.

 

 

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I use 2560x1440 resolution. New PSU 750W. What i mean by good fps is minimum 30 fps with lots of objects around. I set max 60 in the config file anyway. Got 28" monitor with 60 hz.

 

 

Similar setup, I can hold 60 max settings 2560x1440

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Power supply--don't be one of those idiots that buys a 1200W PSU for a one-CPU, one-card gaming rig :) Probably 500-600W is fine...

 

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I think the minimum recommended for a 2080Ti is 650.

 

 

Now I know that's not what he initially plans on getting, but, prices drop and people do get lucky on eBay.

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500w ???????????????

 

 

Oh my god, you wont even pass 1 stresstest.

 

 

It's dangerous to make such recommendations tbh,

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500w ???????????????

 

 

Oh my god, you wont even pass 1 stresstest.

 

It's dangerous to make such recommendations tbh,

 

He can just use what the graphics card manufacturer reccommends.

 

A kilowatt PSU for any single CPU, single card system is drastic overkill. Lots of people buy 'em and they're wasting cash that could go into a better system. There's no advantage to it.

 

I'm using:

i5-6600k @ 4.5 GHz (4 cores/threads) (~100W absolute max)

16GB DDR4

GTX 1080 Ti @ 2050 MHz (384 Watts max.)

2 hard drives, 2 SSDs

DVD drive

3 fans

 

...and I put an ammeter on my computer's PSU power cord, and the most I could measure under a heavy stress test (Furmark, AIDA64 and all that) was about 4.5A of current. At 120 volts AC input, that's 540W in. So, with a PSU efficiency of 85%, that's only 459W into the computer itself. My CPU is pretty average, maybe 100-110W in Prime95 (which I know I shouldn't do to it), but the 1080 Ti Amp Extreme is a *very* power-hungry graphics card!

 

So, a *properly-rated* 500W PSU should be fine. The new hardware actually uses less electricity than the older stuff, too. My 750W PSU is very much overkill, I probably should have just bought a cheaper one.

 

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No , no , no . Spec-ing a power supply at its limit is ALWAYS a bad idea . Efficiency drops and noise increases when a power supply is operated at max , meaning it runs much hotter , shortening service life and greatly increasing the likelihood of failure - with potentially catastrophic effects on anything connected to it .

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AD, really, we can agree on a premium 650w PSU but a 750w was better.

 

Fyi I run 1200w as I want to be able to run up to three cards, 2 gpu and 1 sas aic

 

I have 612w peak and about 400w in DCS with 1 gpu as in sig

 

So 400w x2 = 800w. So any 700-800 was best. Now add another gpu and another 75w Card and 1200 w is ok

 

I don’t say you need 1200 or 1000w for single gpu with a desktop cpu.

 

But look, I really want a threadripper 7nm when it comes, so that will pull way more than my 8700k does, nice to have some extra watts if it pulls 400w peak cpu alone

 

650w is what you say if you wanna sell that card, NVIDIA won’t tell you „hey, you need a new psu too, BTW“. Say 650 and sell it ;)

 

 

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AD, really, we can agree on a premium 650w PSU but a 750w was better.

 

Fyi I run 1200w as I want to be able to run up to three cards, 2 gpu and 1 sas aic

 

I have 612w peak and about 400w in DCS with 1 gpu as in sig

 

So 400w x2 = 800w. So any 700-800 was best. Now add another gpu and another 75w Card and 1200 w is ok

 

I don’t say you need 1200 or 1000w for single gpu with a desktop cpu.

 

But look, I really want a threadripper 7nm when it comes, so that will pull way more than my 8700k does, nice to have some extra watts if it pulls 400w peak cpu alone

 

650w is what you say if you wanna sell that card, NVIDIA won’t tell you „hey, you need a new psu too, BTW“. Say 650 and sell it ;)

 

 

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Hehehe all true, but I was still talking about single-CPU single-card systems.

 

 

Does the AMD Threadripper 7nm really yank more than half a horsepower out of the wall?? If so, that CPU with 3 hefty graphics cards can justify a kilowatt PSU. But, not a one-CPU one-card system.

 

 

I've just seen too many people on this forum with one i7 and one 1080 Ti or even two of them, buying a 1200W PSU or even more.

 

 

It's your dough, buy what you want. ;)

 

 

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Yes, bigger quality (tier) is better.

 

And again, you should use the operating wattage (when gaming) instead of the max wattage (torture test) to calculate the PSU.

 

 

 

 

It depends on how you use your computer.

 

 

When i bought this PSU for my 2600k build in 2015 I just bought it cause it was on sale for less than 300€ and I wanted 1000w anyway, and modular,. SLI proof, SAS adapter proof with 16 HDD's, just prepared for whatever may come....and I have personally fixed dozens of melted PSUs that i do know I never want to belong to those victims. Not if 100-150€ more can safe my parts and mind.

 

 

 

I havent used SLI ( YET! ) but mined with 2 GPUs + CPU at times, tested various GPU's as a 2nd GPU etc... so it payed out for meto have some extra wattage, call it confidence.

 

 

Now, looking with 1 eye on the 2950WC processor, or better the 7nm variant of it coming autumn this year, I do know that even if I pull 300w on the CPU, I can still run 2 Navis

in Vulkan's mGPU.

 

 

 

When mGPU comes and works in DCS, you will see more and more people collecting GPU's in their boards...and melting PSU's. Remember my words then.

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contrary, life is cruel to me and I had to let a friend leave this desk last night with a Ryzen 1600x, a 980ti....and a lousy 400w PSU.

 

 

Same guy who melted 2 PSU's mining with 980ti ( that one ) plus his 1080ti, plus CPU. He went through 3 PSU's until he somehow listened to get at least 1kW of a good brand and Tier.

 

 

That 400w bequiet is one of my "on the shelf for friends" PSU's, I gave him that months ago to get the build done and also gifted my sons 760GTXti as he got my 980GTX back then, I knew it was hairy, but you know what. The freaking 760 died and I think its cuz of that too small PSU that I thought could last until he buys hos own. Well, he never bought one and the 400w reactor grilled the GPU, likely that is the case. Asus cards usually dont fail that fast. ANyway, he insisted on NOT taking my offfer to put my other spare PSU in, a 650w one. OK...I dont need to beat you to listen, its your GPU this time....that were my thoughts.

 

 

I would not be surprised to get a call tomorrow, or now, saying the PC reboots, BSODs, crashed, wont boot upo anymore or..GPU is dead again...all that is in the box if you dare this.

 

 

I told him 650w premium qulaity is the lowest he shall go, or better a 750-850w gold or platinum Tier PSU. I know he will buy the cheapest he will find...back to real life

 

 

 

Just why do I know my guys..and why do I know he will come again saying"I shoudÄve listened" but he never does.

 

 

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Agreed with you Bit. My mission is done. I gave you (everybody) the knowledge to understand what your doing.

But, 15 inches of snow with strong winds tonight/tomorow, after a lovely -30°. Please don't laugh.:megalol: See you later.

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My job today was (for the third time),,, pump 3 feet of water (at -10° full humidity) out of the basement of a store (The plumbing freezes and breaks). The idiot don't heat the store to spare money. That reminds you something? When you want to spare money?


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Agreed with you Bit. My mission is done. I gave you (everybody) the knowledge to understand what your doing.

But, 15 inches of snow with strong winds tonight/tomorow, after a lovely -30°. Please don't laugh.:megalol: See you later.

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My job today was (for the third time),,, pump 3 feet of water (at -10° full humidity) out of the basement of a store (The plumbing freezes and breaks). The idiot don't heat the store to spare money. That reminds you something? When you want to spare money?

 

 

Haha !

 

yeah,, the firemen left my place once saying "Our pumps dont go deeper than 15cm, you have to get the rest of the water out yourself"...and they left. Left me with 400square meters of flooded basement....on a nice sunday afternoon. The heating had a malfunction and pumped it all into the cellar...so nice. Took me till late night with 2 buddies of mine LoL..I will never forget that sunny Sunday afternoon :cry:

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