Gnadentod Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Wow. In a world of Google, Facebook, and *EVERY* web page with cookies, people will revolt against Win10? Perhaps. ... Maybe. More likely just look for alternatives instead. I'm also not talking about the average people you can find on the street. For these it often is too exhausting to question the motives behind free stuff, especially from companies which are the closest to having a monopoly on computer operating systems right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just curious, for your 7 to 10. Are you performing an upgrade, or a complete new install of the O/S? Since those PCs were office machines with LOTS of settings I did an upgrade to save time. Worked flawless. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegOhm_SD Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Holy smokes! that thing is built like a brick s*** house! :smilewink: Yeah, it’s solid. One of the great things is that the motherboard tray is removable so you can put it all together outside the case, then just lay it in. Power Supply and Drives go downstairs. Airflow is also as good as it gets. Believe it comes with two fans. Plus can add more fans which I did. No worries fitting large Graphics cards. Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 Yeah, it’s solid. One of the great things is that the motherboard tray is removable so you can put it all together outside the case, then just lay it in. Power Supply and Drives go downstairs. Airflow is also as good as it gets. Believe it comes with two fans. Plus can add more fans which I did. No worries fitting large Graphics cards. thanks for the info. Also, enough clearance to also take a large air cooler such as Noctua? I prefer air versus watercooled. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 Since those PCs were office machines with LOTS of settings I did an upgrade to save time. Worked flawless. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Thanks. I had once toyed with the idea of doing this to my Win8.1 gamer... but I'm a bit worried with all the "goodies" I have loaded on it. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegOhm_SD Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) thanks for the info. Also, enough clearance to also take a large air cooler such as Noctua? I prefer air versus watercooled. Yes, There is clearance if you don't put a fan on top which is not needed with all the other fan options. Of course you could modify the top to fit a fan up there which a friend of mine did, but probably overkill. I have 4 large fans, two front, two back in push/pull. They are quiet as well. Also, I use a Noctua Air Cooler on the CPU. Be sure to get the grid top, not solid. Heat problems are no issue with this case. With the grid on all sides, the lighting on fans and components show nicely. Edited April 17, 2019 by MegOhm_SD Cuz Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 Yes, There is clearance if you don't put a fan on top which is not needed with all the other fan options. Of course you could modify the top to fit a fan up there which a friend of mine did, but probably overkill. I have 4 large fans, two front, two back in push/pull. They are quiet as well. Also, I use a Noctua Air Cooler on the CPU. Be sure to get the grid top, not solid. Heat problems are no issue with this case. With the grid on all sides, the lighting on fans and components show nicely. Awesome, thanks Bro. I appreciate the info. :thumbup: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Planning a new "Gamer" build - requesting feedback That is like 5 years out, Windows 7 is epic and it's obvious to many what Windows 10 does is a bit too obvious. Especially when you ask yourself why they suddenly gave a new OS to everyone for free ... = get as many people to use it as possible. you’re forgetting your business training and case studies. namely “support costs” and the expenses associated with it. as you know, the quicker you can cut costs, the quicker you can bump the roi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnadentod Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 ... I just underlined why Microsoft suddenly gave out a brand new OS for free = to get as many people as possible onto it. I don't know what you are trying to tell me though. Nevermind, have no intention to derail javelinas thread. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 The grid top...LoL You know I once had coffee tripping through my rig, from the top grid, through the GPU..over the board...out on the bottom....and it survived...even kept running. They are great for ventilation but do have their "ahem" shortcomings. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) Please, someone help... I'm about to pull the trigger... I need someone to counsel me off the ledge... :-) - i7-9700k, Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra, DDR4-3200 CL14 RAM, Samsung 970 Evo Plus.... tossing between the Noctua NH-D15 air cooler, or going water... I've loved using Noctua air in the past... My finger is getting itchy!!! Edited April 20, 2019 by javelina1 MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnadentod Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Please, someone help... I'm about to pull the trigger... I need someone to counsel me off the ledge... :-) - i7-9700k, Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra, DDR4-3200 CL14 RAM, Samsung 970 Evo Plus.... tossing between the Noctua NH-D15 air cooler, or going water... I've loved using Noctua air in the past... My finger is getting itchy!!! On a 9900K I would've go the water route but with 9700K not really (necessary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 On a 9900K I would've go the water route but with 9700K not really (necessary). thanks. As I've been reading up on this, I'm seeing that as well. The Noctua works great for the 9700, but you definitely want water for the 9900. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 Pulled... :-) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Been using closed loop water coolers since 2013, love them. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Burns Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Been using closed loop water coolers since 2013, love them. Which ones? Have a water cooler now from when they were new too not too impressed or polarized but them, (8 years old) have they changed much?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Which ones? Have a water cooler now from when they were new too not too impressed or polarized but them, (8 years old) have they changed much?? On my previous X-79 I7 4820k build, I ran a Corsair H100i. On this new Z390 i9 9900k build, I run a Corsair H150i Pro. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secoda Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I run a Corsair H150i Pro as well. Works great. Make sure your case can handle it. I-7 8700K 5 Ghz OC, Trident Z RGB 32GB DDR4-3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming, ASUS RTX2080 8GB OC, NVMe PCIe M.2 1 TB SSD, EVO 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HD, WD Black 2 TB HD image, Corsair H150i Pro Cooler, HOTAS 16000FCS, Corsair Crystal 570X RGB case, Corsair RM750x Gold PSU, Razer Cynosa Chroma RGB keyboard, Razer Mamba Wireless Gaming Mouse, Samsung QLED 4K 82" :) TV/monitor. HP Reverb. Lenovo Explorer. IRL Private Pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 I pulled the trigger over the weekend. I'm sticking with an Air Cooler. Noctua NH-D15... :-) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I pulled the trigger over the weekend. I'm sticking with an Air Cooler. Noctua NH-D15... :-) :thumbup: 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 Woot! hardware coming in! MB, CPU, Cooler, and NVMe's... Awaiting the RAM... Busy weekend for the build and shakedown... :-) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Best of luck with the new build ! 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 Best of luck with the new build ! Thanks Buddy! Sitting here, looking at all that new hardware. :) Just need the RAM... ;) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegOhm_SD Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Thanks Buddy! Sitting here, looking at all that new hardware. :) Just need the RAM... ;) Awesome...what rewarding fun! Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 :thumbup: Congrats and have fun getting her up and running! Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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