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I decided it was high time to improve my MiG-21 experience and get some cockpit mods. I tried a "clean cockpit" mod and it looks gorgeous. I also tried a "clear canopy" mod and that made a world of difference to my spotting etc. Great. But, since each of those mods is an option I select in the custom cockpit dropdown on the "special" tab in options... I can't use both at the same time.

 

 

Anyone can help me, show me how to merge the mods into one or have them both active together?

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Sure, just overwrite the clean cockpit mod files with the clear canopy mod.

 

Have a look in the folders... Mods/aircraft/Mig-21/liveries/cockpit (or something) to be sure you're transferring the right files, if you want to be sure. All files need to be in the same custom cockpit folder.

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Doesn't seem to work I'm afraid :(

 

 

There was nothing to overwrite, the Clear Glass mod has 4 files, none of which are the same as the 20+ files in the Clean Cockpit mod. I put them all in a single folder and I get clean cockpit but not clear glass.

 

 

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These are the mods I'm using:

 

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3301164/

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3301142/


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Compare file names to our default files..including description.lua There were file name change about a year ago.

 

If the mods are old enough, they may not work properly.

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Thanks for the reply Rudel. Both those mods work individually so I can only assume all file names are correct. It's only when trying to combine the mod files into one folder that clear glass stops working.

Assuming the description.lua files are different, try copy/pasting the appropriate parts of one into the other with Notepad++

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Assuming the description.lua files are different, try copy/pasting the appropriate parts of one into the other with Notepad++

 

 

OK I feel silly now. I did a brief visual compare of the LUAs and I assumed because they had the same lines, they were the same. I did not see all the "true/false" settings. :music_whistling: I think I understand now, I need to make a line "false" to "activate" that particular file to be used. I can't test right now but this should help me a lot!

 

 

Thank you!


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Aha, that worked, thanks again!

 

 

Now, I wanted to go one step further.

 

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1681093/

 

 

that mod doesn't work on 2.5, but I went through and I renamed all the files, and made a new description.lua and I almost made it. 95% works fine but I'm getting some weirdness and it's a bit beyond my skills at the moment to track it down.

 

 

I still have some files I couldn't rename because I couldn't work out the new names, and some missing files I copied from the English mod that are giving me English text in some places. How can I find out what exactly maps to what else to fix this?

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Thanks for the offer, would love to see what you make of it though I feel bad for creating work for you! I'd like to learn a bit as well, is there a convenient way for me to send you my files across or do you prefer working from scratch rather than fixing my mess?

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I wouldn’t mind taking a look at what you’ve done. I might be in a better position because I have two installations of the MiG-21, one current and one older with which to compare file names, etc. That assumes, of course, that they’re separated far enough in time for there to be differences.

 

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Oops, even zipped the file is 60MB and yahoo mail only allows 25. I've sent it in 3 bits.

 

Where are you looking at the "original" files? I thought they would be in "DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\MIG-21bis\Liveries\Mig-21_CP\default" but that folder is empty for me. The others e.g. English and Chinese are not, but their file set is incomplete.

 

The biggest issue I have is I don't have software to open .tga or .dds so unless the thumbnail of the texture renders in my folder view, I'm really stuck. If the thumbnail renders, or the files are .bmp then I can match up what's what and rename fine.

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Oops, even zipped the file is 60MB and yahoo mail only allows 25. I've sent it in 3 bits.

 

Where are you looking at the "original" files? I thought they would be in "DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\MIG-21bis\Liveries\Mig-21_CP\default" but that folder is empty for me. The others e.g. English and Chinese are not, but their file set is incomplete.

 

The biggest issue I have is I don't have software to open .tga or .dds so unless the thumbnail of the texture renders in my folder view, I'm really stuck. If the thumbnail renders, or the files are .bmp then I can match up what's what and rename fine.

 

:) I was expecting a LUA file. The artwork I downloaded awhile ago...except for the clean Russian language pit. But...

 

What do you want to have in the end? Clean canopy and clean Russian language pit as a single mod? Or something else?

 

Not at my computer now to doublecheck but they aren’t in Liveries, I don’t think. I believe it’s something like Textures/Cockpit?


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:) I was expecting a LUA file. The artwork I downloaded awhile ago...except for the clean Russian language pit. But...

 

What do you want to have in the end? Clean canopy and clean Russian language pit as a single mod? Or something else?

 

Not at my computer now to doublecheck but they aren’t in Liveries, I don’t think. I believe it’s something like Textures/Cockpit?

 

Aha found them. Doesn't actually help much as I can still only match up the texture files that I can see the thumbnail for.

 

Yes, what I wanted was the Russian clean cockpit working in 2.5 (the mod was for 1.5 before the big rename). With the clean canopy but I can add that myself, I worked out how to do it on the English clean cockpit mod, which works out of the box as somebody already updated it for 2.5.

 

I think my LUA is fine, but I have no idea if my file renaming is correct. I basically had a bunch of texture files all with outdated names, and renamed each one manually by seeing if it looked the same as one with a correct name, and educated guesswork.

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Aha found them. Doesn't actually help much as I can still only match up the texture files that I can see the thumbnail for.

 

Yes, what I wanted was the Russian clean cockpit working in 2.5 (the mod was for 1.5 before the big rename). With the clean canopy but I can add that myself, I worked out how to do it on the English clean cockpit mod, which works out of the box as somebody already updated it for 2.5.

 

I think my LUA is fine, but I have no idea if my file renaming is correct. I basically had a bunch of texture files all with outdated names, and renamed each one manually by seeing if it looked the same as one with a correct name, and educated guesswork.

 

Ok. I’ll see what I can do tomorrow.

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Unfortunately, it looks like I won't be able to do much. Spent a few hours spinning my wheels just trying to open some of the images you sent in Photoshop. For some reason, they keep erroring out. What you've done looks good so far (in the sim). I only noticed a bit of English in an otherwise Cyrillic pit.

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Thanks for taking the time to look :) I wouldn't know why the images are erroring, I didn't try to open or change anything I just renamed the files.

 

Although... I did change some extensions while renaming them, because they all had double extensions e.g. .TGA.DDS

 

I think I can track down where the English text is coming from.

 

But, when you loaded it up in game, did you not see these weird black rectangles?

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Thanks for taking the time to look :) I wouldn't know why the images are erroring, I didn't try to open or change anything I just renamed the files.

 

Although... I did change some extensions while renaming them, because they all had double extensions e.g. .TGA.DDS

 

I think I can track down where the English text is coming from.

 

But, when you loaded it up in game, did you not see these weird black rectangles?

Oh, those files are DDS files. No wonder Photoshop was having issues. At least I know how to fix that problem now. :)

 

Duh! I was so busy looking at gauges and text, I never even noticed them. Yes. They're there.

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Right, so I fixed the English text. Now just trying to hunt down those damned rectangles. Any ideas which file those might live in?

 

I think that's it. Unless I fly it and something doesn't work that I can't check on the ground (RADAR target icons are my worry).

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Right, so I fixed the English text. Now just trying to hunt down those damned rectangles. Any ideas which file those might live in?

 

I think that's it. Unless I fly it and something doesn't work that I can't check on the ground (RADAR target icons are my worry).

I was just coming back to tell you that I found the English test. But I'm too late, I see. :)

 

I was looking for that first. I'll spend a little more time on those triangles. Hopefully you'll figure it out before I do.

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Let's just compare notes to make sure. English text was coming from MiG21Bis_CP_005.tga - no idea what it does as the BMP for 005 works fine without the TGA so I just deleted it. Was that what you found?

 

Other than disabling each file one by one I have no idea how to go about hunting the triangles. Guess I better get started!

 

There's also the file from the original mod "Mig-21-cockpit_031.tga", which I did not rename and hence am not using because I have no idea what to rename it to. If you can open it in Photoshop could you tell me what you think it is?

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Let's just compare notes to make sure. English text was coming from MiG21Bis_CP_005.tga - no idea what it does as the BMP for 005 works fine without the TGA so I just deleted it. Was that what you found?

 

Other than disabling each file one by one I have no idea how to go about hunting the triangles. Guess I better get started!

 

There's also the file from the original mod "Mig-21-cockpit_031.tga", which I did not rename and hence am not using because I have no idea what to rename it to. If you can open it in Photoshop could you tell me what you think it is?

 

"MiG21Bis_CP_005.tga" is the one with the English text.

 

"Mig-21-cockpit_031.tga" is:

 

attachment.php?attachmentid=207154&stc=1&d=1553364267

 

It's a clearer looking version of: "MiG21Bis_CP_009.tga": which you do have in there.

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Just want to add that there's an issue with the instrument lights. Dial them up and you'll see what I mean.

 

 

Thanks for the heads up. I haven't had more time on this today but will resume tomorrow, will make sure to check the lights. Might just have to disable all the "self illumination" lines. Although to be fair I almost never use the lights myself. Then again, given the amount of work we've put into this I'd like to get it "finished" and upload it to the User Files section when we're done (creditting yourself and the original authors of the textures of course). Hopefully others can benefit too.

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Thanks for the heads up. I haven't had more time on this today but will resume tomorrow, will make sure to check the lights. Might just have to disable all the "self illumination" lines. Although to be fair I almost never use the lights myself. Then again, given the amount of work we've put into this I'd like to get it "finished" and upload it to the User Files section when we're done (creditting yourself and the original authors of the textures of course). Hopefully others can benefit too.

 

Before uploading anything, I would contact the original authors and make sure they're alright with it. All three uploaded their work with a "do not redistribute" notice. You're putting it on the same website but...

 

Also, I haven't really added anything. The grunt work was yours. Please do not credit me.

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