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Old 05-28-2018, 12:13 PM   #161
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Are there any plans to offer a force sensing solution that also includes the push button functionality?



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Not at the moment unfortunately.

There are no commercially available all in one solutions that have a force sensor and push button that I have ever found, let alone at an "affordable" price point.
As far as I know, the real A-10 doesn’t have an push button. The F-15 does but it uses a bizarre arrangement where the entire force sensor slides back into the throttle to press a switch, more info here http://www.f15sim.com/tech/throttle.html

Even if I could make something like that fit in the throttle, it would massively increase complexity and therefore cost.
I also don't really like the idea of having to push directly onto the sensor for a button. I can’t see how you operate it without moving the sensor in an undesired direction.

I personally much prefer having a separate button somewhere else on the throttle, but that does require some modifications and soldering which I know allot of people are not so comfortable with.

If anyone has any more information on how any of the real aircraft work that they can share, I would love to know.


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Old 05-28-2018, 04:22 PM   #162
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The A-10 Slew has the same push button set up as picture in the F-15. even though it is not listed as being used at this time the T.O lists it for future use.

It is not complicated the entire switch move back just a bit press on a lever that triggers the push button.
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Old 05-28-2018, 08:29 PM   #163
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Arrived. Installed. Joy.
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Old 05-29-2018, 12:38 AM   #164
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Even if I could make something like that fit in the throttle, it would massively increase complexity and therefore cost.
Is there enough room inside a redesigned slew hat for a tact switch? (2 piece print to sandwich the switch in). Since the force sensor post does not move (much) you can run the wires back past the sensor post into the body. Maybe need to retract the sensor into the throttle body another mm or two?

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Old 06-01-2018, 12:39 PM   #165
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I have the force sensing kit built in my throttle. I never missed the push-button it doesn't have. What would one use it for? I never used it on the A-10C.
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:46 PM   #166
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Deltaalphalima1 you should reopen the pre-orders, i'd like to get one even if I have to wait a few months for it
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I never missed the push-button it doesn't have. What would one use it for?
I currently use it as my center TrackIR button. In the past, I've used it as the lock target button in the Ka-50 and the cancel lock button in the Su-27. It's useful as a single push button if you're not using the slew cursor.
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Old 06-01-2018, 06:30 PM   #168
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I have the force sensing kit built in my throttle. I never missed the push-button it doesn't have. What would one use it for? I never used it on the A-10C.

I think this mostly came up because the Hornet does have one and it's used for target selection I believe. The A-10 has a TMS for all that stuff so it's not needed. Depending of which aircraft you fly I guess it's more important for some people than others.

I have found some nice switches which should fit well as a modification on the throttle, I will post something on that soon.



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Deltaalphalima1 you should reopen the pre-orders, i'd like to get one even if I have to wait a few months for it

I will soon. I just want to get some units out first as a bit of a test before commiting to anything. This way I can get some feedback and others can make a more informed choice.
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:10 AM   #169
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I will soon. I just want to get some units out first as a bit of a test before commiting to anything. This way I can get some feedback and others can make a more informed choice.
Sign me up. I'll be a part of the beta test crew, if that's going to be a thing. Also, I second the pre-order request too. I hate that nipple. It slips too easily and the Hornet doesn't have a TDC slew control that's mappable so I have to use the TMS hat on my stick right now, which kills the immersion.

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Old 06-03-2018, 06:19 AM   #170
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Sign me up. I'll be a part of the beta test crew, if that's going to be a thing. Also, I second the pre-order request too. I hate that nipple. It slips too easily and the Hornet doesn't have a TDC slew control that's mappable so I have to use the TMS hat on my stick right now, which kills the immersion.

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There's no beta test group. Delta setup a pre-order site for 30 units. All have been sold. Pre-orders will open again once the first orders are finished.
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