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Old 09-15-2018, 11:47 AM   #31
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Here's a rules compliant one from the 1973 AV-8A manual. It's very similar to the AV-8B system.

The Inertia Weight is the "bobweight".

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Old 09-15-2018, 11:58 AM   #32
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Ahhh I remember, that was on the news!! What was it again, did it reveal exactly how devastating destruction a type of bomb has or what type of values (not exactly the values) were published?
And "down on them" ?? Shouldn't the government just've "... brought it down on the guy breaching the secret conduct code" of that document??? Wtf... also, how did Swedish government even find out?? o_O Seems we have at least 1 DCS fan here in forum working for Swedish counter-intelligence service xD (just interesting)
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:02 PM   #33
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Thx Vladinsky!!!
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:08 PM   #34
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It was a RBS15 document that was declassified by the military archive by accident. Not super sensitive stuff but not exactly stuff that should be public either seeing as it's still in service.

The rule is arguably more of a liability thing.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:21 PM   #35
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A-10C, Harrier and F-18 are also still in service... and F-18C in DCS most complex realistic programming ever in DCS history (after A-10C). Also isn't the archive to blame, not the innocent player who posted it here?
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:42 PM   #36
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The document in question would probably be more like a document detailing specific maneuvering performance and guidance of the Harpoon, something that would no doubt be restricted.

The archive is fully to blame, anyone can request to have documents declassified. It is then the responsibility of the archive to assess wether or not the information is suitable for release.
I don't believe the person in question got into any trouble since you cannot be expected to know wether or not the information is sensitive. Once declassified by the archive it's just another public document.

I suspect we're moving somewhat off topic though.
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Old 09-15-2018, 01:18 PM   #37
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Yes we are, but seeing that that you're from Sweden too I thought it could be interesting (it was).
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Old 09-15-2018, 01:32 PM   #38
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Agreed.

As for the wings breaking, I haven't done any extensive testing but as GGTharos mentioned you usually have at least a 30% margin before catastrophic failures in regard to the listed structural limit.

Which with your listed weight would probably(very rought estimate) be around at least 7.5G, it may be that it's slightly too restrictive right now, there's a G spike from rapidly moving the stick or at that mach number it is more sensitive to over G events.

It shouldn't be easy to pull the wings off but there's also not a system in place that will outright prevent you from doing it.
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