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Old 11-06-2018, 12:51 AM   #11
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Generally, it will evaporate from what I gather.
huh, interesting. guess that's better than raining down on some poor sod on the ground.
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Old 11-06-2018, 01:04 AM   #12
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that works too! but then again where does the fuel that is dumped go?
on commercials they tell us we need at least 6000' to dump as it takes that long to fully evaporate.
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Old 11-06-2018, 02:33 AM   #13
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If you do a short landing at 60 to 80 knots touch down speed you can have a heavy load and stop ok on the landing runway without a hook. As you come in on final with nozzles in hover position put your velocity vector indicator on the deck wires and keep it there using the throttle. Use nose up to slow down and nose down to speed up . If you are heavy don't let your speed drop below ~80 knots (depending on weight) until you are over the deck. I can normally get to 60 knots before touch down by pulling the nose up and easing her down once over the deck where it finally falls out of the air. I do this kind of landing at airfields also because it seems easier on the "bicycle with training wheels" type landing gear on the Harrier...as opposed to rolling on the runway at 150 knots while heavy.



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Old 11-06-2018, 03:40 AM   #14
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If you do a short landing at 60 to 80 knots touch down speed you can have a heavy load and stop ok on the landing runway without a hook. As you come in on final with nozzles in hover position put your velocity vector indicator on the deck wires and keep it there using the throttle. Use nose up to slow down and nose down to speed up . If you are heavy don't let your speed drop below ~80 knots (depending on weight) until you are over the deck. I can normally get to 60 knots before touch down by pulling the nose up and easing her down once over the deck where it finally falls out of the air. I do this kind of landing at airfields also because it seems easier on the "bicycle with training wheels" type landing gear on the Harrier...as opposed to rolling on the runway at 150 knots while heavy.



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You can also rotate the nozzles to full forward, which provides some reverse thrust. I’m not sure if it is done in real life, but one can do rolling landings on the tarawa fairly easy this way.
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:03 AM   #15
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that works too! but then again where does the fuel that is dumped go?
Ok Greenpeace, then circle and burn your virtual fuel

But waiting to burn you virtual fuel to not drop your virtual bombs into virtual sea, you are consuming more real electricity
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:01 AM   #16
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i do what the RN is doing with the f35, a rolling near vertical landing, always dump fuel to around 1000lbs though, this gives you enough margin for error, or you just do a hail Mary rolling landing on the Stennis at virtual stall speed so you just touch down at the very back, jam you brakes on, full forward thrust nozzles and full rpm, should provide enough braking force to stop you by the end, its not pretty but it works.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:39 PM   #17
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i do what the RN is doing with the f35, a rolling near vertical landing, always dump fuel to around 1000lbs though, this gives you enough margin for error, or you just do a hail Mary rolling landing on the Stennis at virtual stall speed so you just touch down at the very back, jam you brakes on, full forward thrust nozzles and full rpm, should provide enough braking force to stop you by the end, its not pretty but it works.
I think full foward nozzles are forbbiden on the ground, because the air ingestion. you damage the engine.
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:12 AM   #18
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I think full foward nozzles are forbbiden on the ground, because the air ingestion. you damage the engine.
Only below around 50 knots. Then it becomes a problem. Before that it's fine. Preferred actually
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Old 11-09-2018, 01:41 AM   #19
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I think full foward nozzles are forbbiden on the ground, because the air ingestion. you damage the engine.
Standard braking procedure for CL, FNSL, and VNSLs is to set full forward nozzles and 70% RPM.
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