Improved FLIR Simulation

Who are the 3 people that voted no? Or did we throw those in there just to make the numbers not look like a North Korean election. We don't need anything fancy, like engine blocks and tail pipes, just give us something that doesn't disappear the second it drives into a forest/stand of trees.

This will never be acknowledged, because it has no financial gain.

How so? I for one used to play this game 2-3 times per week, and have shelved the game for over a year over this issue alone. All of my friends are in the same camp. That means we aren't buying new modules either, and will not buy anything new from ED until this is fixed.

As at this moment the FLIR is at least challenge and more realistic.

It's not supposed to be challenging to find targets. That defeats the purpose of FLIR. If I wanted a challenge I'd use TV.

This still isn't fixed? I've been waiting since 2011. The TGP is a very important tool for the game. Considering 98% of all weapon deployed is aided by the TGP, you would think this would be a priority fix. An inaccurate TGP shouldn't be excusable.

By the way, those of you who are saying it adds to the "Challenge", that's a cop-out excuse. We want realism. Because realism is challenging enough.

This still isn't fixed? I've been waiting since 2011. The TGP is a very important tool for the game. Considering 98% of all weapon deployed is aided by the TGP, you would think this would be a priority fix. An inaccurate TGP shouldn't be excusable.

 

By the way, those of you who are saying it adds to the "Challenge", that's a cop-out excuse. We want realism. Because realism is challenging enough.

+1 +1 +1 +1 NO F-18 RELEASE TILL THE FLIR GETS FIXED!!!

Won't be purchasing Hornet or any other modules till this is fixed, either

raza :megalol:

Real world IR signature is a dynamic condition. It changes constantly. A simulation in itself, for every potential target. I don't think a consumer sim needs that level of fidelity, and it would suck away FPS. DirectX suppourts, I think, realtime ambient occlusion, and/or realtime spherical harmonics shading. A FLIR imaging could be based on that, and be good enough.

Real world IR signature is a dynamic condition. It changes constantly. A simulation in itself, for every potential target. I don't think a consumer sim needs that level of fidelity, and it would suck away FPS. DirectX suppourts, I think, realtime ambient occlusion, and/or realtime spherical harmonics shading. A FLIR imaging could be based on that, and be good enough.

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Agreed. Though I think ARMA3 does a very nice job at this.

 

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Any screen caps of how Arma renders FLIR?

I have only a passing knowledge of Arma (looks hella fun though) and I don't think I've ever seen FLIR in use.

Any screen caps of how Arma renders FLIR?

 

I have only a passing knowledge of Arma (looks hella fun though) and I don't think I've ever seen FLIR in use.

https://youtu.be/pN-k-Drsbjk

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Agreed with DaveRinder. Have done some FLIR stuff for RL Sim, and it's a world of pain to get right. Basically, you not only have to identify the materials of everything in every part of the terrain & each object, you have to also have to tag how that interacts, how it cools or warms, what it's current state is, how the ambient temp is affecting it, and a whole bunch of other factors that essentially mean a ton of work that can become a mess on screen. Far better to just fake something like ARMA & have a chance to see targets in the first place, in a way that doesn't overcomplicate matters.

+1 +1 +1 +1 NO F-18 RELEASE TILL THE FLIR GETS FIXED!!!

 

Won't be purchasing Hornet or any other modules till this is fixed, either

So no prepurchase ?

ROFL :megalol:

YES!!! seems like 2.5 has fixed FLIR

No it hasn't... Buildings are still hot and vehicles aren't.

I dunno...

Compared to 1.5, FLIR in 2.5OB is light years better IMO.

At least in the Warthog.

I dunno...

 

Compared to 1.5, FLIR in 2.5OB is light years better IMO.

 

At least in the Warthog.

I agree FLir is much better In 2.5 OB.

Here is a video:

 

https://youtu.be/pN-k-Drsbjk

 

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This. Just, please. Make it like this.

Wasn't there an official statement that there would be a significant FLIR overhaul years ago?

It has been said that there will be one when the ATFLIR for the Hornet gets release or after it.... something along those lines

Check Wags' last sentence in his most recent Hornet mini-update... :happy:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3629425&postcount=78

ATFLIR is also a high priority, but we first need to complete a an all new and improved FLIR rendering system.

FLIR before ATFLIR is good in my book (love the Hog), but still that could be quite some time away.

but even the objecies visible to the naked eye are hard to find.

It is very sad to see that FLIR, an essential aspect of modern military aviation, remains unmodeled in the sim after so many years. What's the point of having any mud movers (even flagships like A10 and F18) in the game if we don't have FLIR, really? I think I'll go back to not flying DCS.

It is very sad to see that FLIR, an essential aspect of modern military aviation, remains unmodeled in the sim after so many years.

There is IR modelling, even though it's probably not as good as we'd all like it to be.

I believe it was once announced that proper/reworked IR modelling would be part of the new TGP developed for the F/A-18C. Just recently, it was announced that the Hornet would get the Litening II TGP as known from the A-10C as an interim solution, so I guess until the ATFLIR is released, we'll be stuck with what we have.

Then again, there were times when the IR image in the TGP was so incredibly useless that I gave up on it. Even MBTs and APCs were entirely invisible against ground clutter. This was definitely remedied and what we have right now is a fairly workable solution IMO.