Bob Morton Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Hi - so this is my classic scenario - I have STT lock on a bogey and closing. Everything going okay. At 45miles I fire a Phoenix - invariably i hear Jester doing some clicking in the back seat and he says he lost lock... every damn time. It seems to me Jester adjusts the radar mode and thus loses the lock. Is there a way to prevent him from playing around with the radar modes when I have a perfectly good STT lock? Him losing lock means that there is no way I can do a long range Phoenix shot because he will invariably lose the lock. Comment lease help! F-14B - F-18C - F-16C - Mirage 2000 i7-6700k 4Ghz; EVGA 2080ti; 32GB DDR4; warthog HOTAS; Logitech pro flight pedals; oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xakura Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Hi - so this is my classic scenario - I have STT lock on a bogey and closing. Everything going okay. At 45miles I fire a Phoenix - invariably i hear Jester doing some clicking in the back seat and he says he lost lock... every damn time. It seems to me Jester adjusts the radar mode and thus loses the lock. Is there a way to prevent him from playing around with the radar modes when I have a perfectly good STT lock? Him losing lock means that there is no way I can do a long range Phoenix shot because he will invariably lose the lock. Comment lease help! Target is going defensive and notching you because you fired a missile at him. Notching is what's causing you to lose lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morton Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 Target is going defensive and notching you because you fired a missile at him. Notching is what's causing you to lose lock. I would agree with you but invariably the loss of lock happens at the exact same time that that Jester is playing around with the radar mode F-14B - F-18C - F-16C - Mirage 2000 i7-6700k 4Ghz; EVGA 2080ti; 32GB DDR4; warthog HOTAS; Logitech pro flight pedals; oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legearre Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Stay below the target and tell jester to go PSTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Stay below the target and tell jester to go PSTT I don't think phoenixes can be guided in pstt mode. You would go below the target to keep the target painted against the sky but flip the main lobe clutter mlc, off while still in pdstt to guide phoenixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morton Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 Okay - thanks - that is helpful I will try to shoot the phoneix and then fly low below the target altitude! F-14B - F-18C - F-16C - Mirage 2000 i7-6700k 4Ghz; EVGA 2080ti; 32GB DDR4; warthog HOTAS; Logitech pro flight pedals; oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_dalan Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I don't think phoenixes can be guided in pstt mode. You would go below the target to keep the target painted against the sky but flip the main lobe clutter mlc, off while still in pdstt to guide phoenixes. Can you do it from the front seat? or will it automatically be turned off once you are at say 5 degree nose-up? Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVgamer72 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 My experience as well. He loses lock at a bugged or abnormally stupid level. I get not making him super human, but Jester is worse than having an empty backseat when it counts the most. He makes the constant vertical looping AI look like members of Mensa when it is Phoenix time. Still won’t stop flying and recommending the Tomcat despite the bugs. It is still so amazing despite flaws that will eventually get fixed. I might need a 12 step program... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodyOrgan Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 By default Jester is set to automatically handle the radar in the manner he sees fit. Sadly, in practice this doesn't work out so well. If you fire a Phoenix in TWS radar mode, Jester is very likely to switch the radar mode to RWS, essentially trashing the shot. To prevent this command Jester to only use TWS radar mode via the Jester wheel if you want to take a TWS shot or command him to only use RWS if you want to take an STT shot. There is an additional problem with Jester if taking STT shots. He has a high probability of switching the mode from Pulse Doppler to Pulse (PD-STT vs P-STT), and vise versa. When he does this often times the lock is broken. There is an option in the special settings for the F-14 to prevent him from automatically switching pulse modes. Be default it isn't checked. I highly recommend you check this option, and command him to use pulse when you actually want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehksauce Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 There is an additional problem with Jester if taking STT shots. He has a high probability of switching the mode from Pulse Doppler to Pulse (PD-STT vs P-STT), and vise versa. When he does this often times the lock is broken. There is an option in the special settings for the F-14 to prevent him from automatically switching pulse modes. Be default it isn't checked. I highly recommend you check this option, and command him to use pulse when you actually want it. Can you tell jester to switch pulse doppler to pulse in the wheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodyOrgan Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 There is an additional problem with Jester if taking STT shots. He has a high probability of switching the mode from Pulse Doppler to Pulse (PD-STT vs P-STT), and vise versa. When he does this often times the lock is broken. There is an option in the special settings for the F-14 to prevent him from automatically switching pulse modes. Be default it isn't checked. I highly recommend you check this option, and command him to use pulse when you actually want it. Can you tell jester to switch pulse doppler to pulse in the wheel? Yes, see P-STT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Can you do it from the front seat? or will it automatically be turned off once you are at say 5 degree nose-up? Unfortunately no to the first yes to the second if mlc is in auto. The mlc switch is high left of the DDD display in the RIO seat and as far as I know, there's no control in front. I'm not sure what pitch degree turns the mlc off though. But when mlc does turn off, you want to be nose down not up, because if the target ends up in the ground clutter, there is a high chance the radar will lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_dalan Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Unfortunately no to the first yes to the second if mlc is in auto. The mlc switch is high left of the DDD display in the RIO seat and as far as I know, there's no control in front. I'm not sure what pitch degree turns the mlc off though. But when mlc does turn off, you want to be nose down not up, because if the target ends up in the ground clutter, there is a high chance the radar will lose it. Thanks :thumbup: By being nose up, i meant keeping the target in a look-up state, that is above our nose :) Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Honestly, I've given up on using Jester for anything other than TWS. I'll fire all my Phoenixes in TWS at 40~50nm, once I get closer to 10nm I'll use PAL/PMS (I get the two confused) to lock something myself for Sparrows or Sidewinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 It would be nice to add "MLC OFF" to the Jester wheel or have him do it automatically (if it's possible ?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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