New Machine: How Many FPS Needed?

I like companies like Cyberpower because they perform tests on games and they list their machines with maximum frames per second achieved during the game test. So a higher-end machine will be something like "147 FPS".

The 147 FPS machine will be around $1,500, depending on the sales they have.

How many FPS do I need to play a modern sim like DCS World, IL-2 V2, or Prepar 3D, or X-Plane 10?

My current PC is a custom, I built it form parts 5 years ago. I won't build a custom again because ordering the parts was just as expensive as purchasing a complete system so trying to save money by building your own is a blind alley in my opinion.

I'd be more interested in the min fps the system got.

I'd be more interested in the min fps the system got.

I highly doubt that 1500 € or US$ will be neough for a 144fps machine at QHD or 4k.

You need a 5GHz Intel CPU, 16GB, a 1080Ti, a board, SSD, PSU, Case, Win10...

That will either be a compromise somewhere, lower tier PSU, lower tier GPU vendor, mid tier SSD etc. to match that price.

My current top tier purchase was over those 1500€ for CPU MOBO GPU alone, not including ANYTHING else. 429€ CPU, 939€ GPU, 230€ board, + RAM, SSD, PSU CASE etc..

Like BitMaster said, for what rez? I can keep the new V4 civi sim at 40 - 50 fps at a large 3rd party airport scenery with "very high" eye candy settings @ 2560 x 1440p. You don't need as many fps in these civi sim tho (30+ is ok), your not throwing your head and aircraft all over the place like you do in combat aircraft.

Then there's the rift, this can break any rig if you turn things up to much, my 1070 is playable and can see 90fps, then jumps to 45 with asw as needed.

Good read about VR on the forum Understanding Pixel Density, the post relates to monitor rez too.

In DCS I test/adj my settings over vegas and push for a smooth 60 fps min.

In civi sims have my settings to hold 40 fps in large airports with ai.

Outside of these areas in any sim, I can get up to the 144 fps, this also comes down to the tech your using, I use G sync that smooths all this out nicely, tho it does cost$ more to have it, I do recommend it greatly and worth every cent.

Here is a thread with what I'm getting in FPS in the latest 2.2 update with quite high settings, screenshots of settings attach in that thread.

I'd be more interested in the min fps the system got.

Yep, this above is what I always want to know in any sim, it's always a good balance between performance and eye candy in any flight sim. Now you can also add trying to get a half decent eye candy experience on low settings, running these PC heavy flight sims in VR.

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My current top tier purchase was over those 1500€ for CPU MOBO GPU alone, not including ANYTHING else. 429€ CPU, 939€ GPU, 230€ board, + RAM, SSD, PSU CASE etc..

Nothing wrong with spending 4,000 Euros on a new system if it makes you happy and excited, but systems in that range will give you a small performance improvement which may not even be noticeable but it will come at a very high price in money. You will spend 100% more money, but will not get 100% performance improvement. Your performance improvement will be more like...10%? And this is the problem with very expensive systems.

Nothing wrong with spending 4,000 Euros on a new system if it makes you happy and excited, but systems in that range will give you a small performance improvement which may not even be noticeable but it will come at a very high price in money. You will spend 100% more money, but will not get 100% performance improvement. Your performance improvement will be more like...10%? And this is the problem with very expensive systems.

Pardon, you were asking for a 145fps machine, not me. I just told you that a 1500€ machine will not get you there.

4k€....not quite...add a few more :D

It will depend a lot on your monitor and if you use rift or not. What are you using?

I use a single 1920x1080 monitor and my $1400 system will easily hold 145fps as the lowest it gets on high settings. I know going to a higher res monitor won't get me the same performance. So, I stay with what I have and i'm happy with it

Better to upgrade what you have over time. I guarantee buying a pre built system will incorporate some less premium parts to keep costs down and margins higher, normally mobo and psu.

Why 147 fps ?

I like companies like Cyberpower because they perform tests on games and they list their machines with maximum frames per second achieved during the game test. So a higher-end machine will be something like "147 FPS".

As already mentioned, the "minimum FPS" or "median FPS" would be more accurate, as the highest FPS can be just a peak, average being 65 FPS and median 45 FPS and lowest 22 FPS.

The 147 FPS machine will be around $1,500, depending on the sales they have.

 

How many FPS do I need to play a modern sim like DCS World, IL-2 V2, or Prepar 3D, or X-Plane 10?

If you could get a totally stable FPS, then 24 FPS would be enough, but it would require a motion blurring enabled so when you turn head or something moves on screen, it starts to get blurred before motion speed gets lower. So 30-60FPS starts to be the "minimum" for totally smooth experience, meaning so when something stationary is moving in edge of screen, it doesn't show any jittery. 60 FPS is usual monitor FPS (monitor Hz) that means the display can only refresh image so many times. Gaming displays goes to 144Hz and little above even. Typical screen is 60 Hz so above 60 FPS you don't see anything.

My current PC is a custom, I built it form parts 5 years ago. I won't build a custom again because ordering the parts was just as expensive as purchasing a complete system so trying to save money by building your own is a blind alley in my opinion.

Reason to go for custom is to get the parts you want, not the performance by money. You can save money with customs, but usually someone already does so close by setup ready as companies has these gaming custom rigs setups premade so you don't get much better. And when you want to go for better, then you are spending more money per percentage to get better. So 5% better can be 20% more expensive.

Pardon, you were asking for a 145fps machine, not me. I just told you that a 1500€ machine will not get you there.

 

4k€....not quite...add a few more :D

800-1200€ rig already gives 145 FPS for DCS at 4K in free flight in somewhere middle of the map.

But add a 10 AI ground units and your FPS is below 40 FPS. Add more and FPS steadily goes down and down and down.

Then add a VR to that and you get like 20-25FPS in VR settings, even when 4K with all maxet out was very nice 145-180 FPS.

It differs a lot when it comes to what your rig can push at said resolutions.

I mine at 35.5MH/s ETH and my daughter plays minecraft at max settings same time with 54 fps. Without minecraft my hash is 36MH/s with Claymore DualMiner.

With a 1070, you can earn your rigs cost over time....just an idea.

DCS is a breeze with a 1080Ti and any CPU 4.5 or better, 16GB or more + SSD

Lower any part in the chain and the bottleneck will come a lot closer than you wish.

I have several friends that want to mine...but their PSU shuts the PC down the moment the miner kicks in. I tested their cards in my rig, no problem, they run flawless. That's when quality componenets make a difference. 650W should be enough according to all sales papers, well, try it out, start the miner and the screen goes OFF.

YOu can cut corners, but it may haunt you sooner than later. Cheap boards may work, cheap PSU's dont and it doesnt stop there.

mining 24/7 with my game rig at 43/44°C, full OC/uv ;) BASTARD !! ( GPU undervolted, VRAM at 12GHz overclocked = 7°C less on my DIY Loop, but same time about .75MH/sec more, even tho the core runs 200MHz slower. ) Those micron DRAMs on the GPU can really fly high when you keep the core clock moderate.