Burt Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Ok so my new rig has a m2 NVMe and has a open spot for a sata 7200rpm hd which didn’t op for. I’m able to add 2 ssd to the unit but my question is that should I hook a brand new 1TB ssd to the sata 7200 he spot or 1 of the ssd spots? Thx in advance.... trying to get all set up and buy some mods. FNG out ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Nephilim Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Well is the slot size made to fit a smaller SSD drive or something?? or is the drive space the same size.. It should not matter it all plugs into the SATA Port on the motherboard they are all the same abit different spoeed SATA Ports.. so the slot where you can put the SSD and HDD the same size you can put an SSD in the HDD Slot with a SSD CAddy.. ASRock Z590 Phantom Gaming 4/AC / Intel i7 10700K @ 5.1Ghz / Noctua DHS-14 Heatsinkw/Fan / Samsung 970plus m.2 1TB / eVGA FTW3 2080Ti / RipJaws - 64GB RAM @3200 / SoundBlaster Z / Reverb G2 VR / ThrustMaster HOTAS Cougar & MFD's / Buttkicker Gamer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Well is the slot size made to fit a smaller SSD drive or something?? or is the drive space the same size.. It should not matter it all plugs into the SATA Port on the motherboard they are all the same abit different spoeed SATA Ports.. so the slot where you can put the SSD and HDD the same size you can put an SSD in the HDD Slot with a SSD CAddy.. Yes exactly it’s a empty slot where a 3.5 sata would go if I went dual drives. I was wondering if the transfer speed would be better in that 3.5 slot. Thx for reply FNG out ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 I forgot to mention that there is 2 available ssd slots. I’m thinking just put it in the 3.5 hd slot. ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Nephilim Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I forgot to mention that there is 2 available ssd slots. I’m thinking just put it in the 3.5 hd slot. OK I think I see what you are saying the Slot means nothing most where made for a 3.5" HDD but you can put in a smaller 2.5" SSD with a Caddy.. Then you need to be plugged into the correct SATA Slot on the motherboard if it has both SATA3 and SATA 2 ports on the motherboard.. and you should use the black SATA cable that came weith either the moptherboard or SSD itself.. it should be printed on the SATA Cable which version it is for.. ASRock Z590 Phantom Gaming 4/AC / Intel i7 10700K @ 5.1Ghz / Noctua DHS-14 Heatsinkw/Fan / Samsung 970plus m.2 1TB / eVGA FTW3 2080Ti / RipJaws - 64GB RAM @3200 / SoundBlaster Z / Reverb G2 VR / ThrustMaster HOTAS Cougar & MFD's / Buttkicker Gamer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Yes I bought extra sata cables with ssd so when I opened my Alienware R9 I saw where there is already a sata and power connection where a 3.5” HD would go. So instead of putting the ssd in one of the ssd cage can’t I just put it where a 3.5 HD would go...if I went the option to go dual drives which I didn’t ... I just went for a single drive NVMe. Dang I’m sorry so freaking new to this is driving me crazy. I just want to put the Samsung 1tb ssd in and get DCS loaded on the drive. Thank so much for your help. ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Also let me add that sata 1 is the NVMe ... sata 2 is the empty spot where a 3.5” he would go and sata3 and sata 4 are open for use and open on the motherboard too. So should I put it in the sata 2 spot? God I hope this makes sense. FNG out again ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Ok wait I think i may have it. The mother has 1 NVMe and 3 sata connections. So I think it would be wise to put the ssd in the sata 1 spot which is where I opt not to have a 3.5” HD... the power and sata connections are already there. Wouldn’t that be the right thing to do? Much thx ! FNG out ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Wow dell tech support said that the Alienware R9 does not support Samsung Evo and Evo pro ssd’s..... wtf? FNG out ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) I doubt that, unless they only accommodate drives of a different length, the Samsung one is 80mm long. The Bios wouldnt know imho. You could order one from a place where you can give it back...or just ask Google. OOPs...I didnt read correctly... I thought NVMe. .just google if it works. I still doubt it would not accept them. Edited March 23, 2020 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) I doubt that, unless they only accommodate drives of a different length, the Samsung one is 80mm long. The Bios wouldnt know imho. You could order one from a place where you can give it back...or just ask Google. OOPs...I didnt read correctly... I thought NVMe. .just google if it works. I still doubt it would not accept them. Yeah I was totally like huh? I Called again on the tech support and was the same answer. A lot of cases of crashing and losing data. Is there other recommendations on gaming 2.5 solid state drives? If not I’ll just run DCS on the m2 2 tb drive. Thx for the reply. FNG out Edited March 23, 2020 by Burt Correction ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Yeah I was totally like huh? I Called again on the tech support and was the same answer. A lot of cases of crashing and losing data. Is there other recommendations on gaming 2.5 solid state drives? If not I’ll just run DCS on the m2 2 tb drive. Thx for the reply. FNG out Run the combination again using some testing platform databases like https://www.3dmark.com/search for is there anything out of that combo they say is dangerous. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Thx Fri13. I haven't ran any test yet on the machine but i will check it out. FNG out ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I almost can't believe what the Dell tech guys told you, as many drives that come from Dell are actually Samsung drives with a different sticker "Dell" on them. If it was me, I'd giveit a shot because if a drive is incompatible it would rather not show up in Bios than causing errors in use. It's an Intel PCH controlling the drives and that chip is from Intel and can very well work with Samsung drives, in fact I have 2 of them in my home running 850Pro's in Dell Optiplexes and all other drives I ever put in any machine were to 99% all Samsung Pro drives, till today, no errors. I bet, if you order one from Dell, it is likely a Samsung drive, relabeled. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Give me precise info of your Dell machine and I should be able to find out. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 Give me precise info of your Dell machine and I should be able to find out. Yes sir BitMaster, give me a minute and I'll get the manual specs. But yeah I also have my old Dell XPS 8300 on a Samsung 860EVO no probs, ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 9th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 9700K (8-Core, 12MB Cache, Overclocked up to 4.6GHz across all cores) 32GB Dual Channel HyperX™ FURY DDR4 XMP at 2933MHz 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD -Single drive R9 Service Manual - https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/us/en/04/alienware-aurora-r9-desktop/alienware-aurora-r9-service-manual/system-board-components?guid=guid-238de792-1e85-4294-891f-ec985c8470ab&lang=en-us Thx for your time Bitmaster!!!! ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 only thing i have that mentioned this as fas as a customer. https://medium.com/@jingchenli/how-to-add-additional-ssd-in-alienware-aurora-r7-and-other-machines-8e556bbbd414 ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 I bet, if you order one from Dell, it is likely a Samsung drive, relabeled. I did order the ssd from Dell with the R9. Thx FNG out ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 This is a stupid situation. I don't want to talk you into buying something that Dell knows it causes errors, for whatever reason. Samsung has many other drives than EVO and PRO, so there are chances to buy one from a dealer other than Dell and get the exact same drive...for less money. Either way, one more reason NOT to buy pre-made boxes from Dell if you are a gamer etc. They make perfect sense for offices, large scale deployment and for people who only have clearly defined usages and dont mind paying extra for all the positives Dell has to offer. For a DCS simmer, Dell and alikes are maybe the worst you could do. Any local dealer can build you a better box for the same money or an equal box for less, hands down. What they cannot deliver, is a 5y trouble free parts delivery in case of malfunction etc... that is the difference. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 As I get into DCS and learn more about all the computer stuff, I will eventually build one on my own. I'm an older guy... mid 50's that just wants to get my brain going and DCS and all its glory has lit my bells and whistles for sure. This is my first ever gaming machine. Anywho... Thx Bitmaster for your time and I will definitely soak in your advice. The End ! FNG out ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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