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Old 06-14-2017, 06:21 PM   #71
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HAHA!!!! That was a good one...you already raised the bar to the top level simply by creating a Tomcat. Many dreams will come true due to this...every further step you make is a step beyond the thing that holds the raise bar (whatever this might be called in english)
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:59 PM   #72
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We have a plan with regards to Russian ordinance on Iranian Tomcats which I think will satisfy everyone.
wow, by the way mim23 was actually used in combat but the Russian ones were never used and some sort of failed to work with tomcats, but the mim23, they not only worked fine with lots of improvements on both tomcats and mim23 but also scored some kills, I never thought you would have done that, just wow...that's what makes you diffrenet from other developers...wow just wow
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:25 PM   #73
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We have a plan with regards to Russian ordinance on Iranian Tomcats which I think will satisfy everyone.
and also, the r27 was not more than a prototype and test, but the mim23 was used and then developed by Iran into a new a-a missile called sedjeel (سجيل) they had also developed an Iranian version of aim54 (obviously not as good as the original one) called fakour-90, but as lack of data is obvious , I really think that mim23 option would be the most realistic one.



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wow, real Persian boy stand here, welcome dude.
your hero Jalil Zandi is the best tomcat pilot over the world, I known his story from osprey book. (but amurica boyz still think they are the best.)
and there are some documentary videos about the war at utb, I love them. there are 2 episode (cut from the 5 episode one) in english, other 5 episode (original) is in Persian, feel pity that I can't understand it.
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and also, the r27 was not more than a prototype and test, but the mim23 was used and then developed by Iran into a new a-a missile called sedjeel (سجيل) they had also developed an Iranian version of aim54 (obviously not as good as the original one) called fakour-90, but as lack of data is obvious , I really think that mim23 option would be the most realistic one.



sedjeel missile based on hawk mim23







Fakour-90 iranian version of aim54







sedjeel missile based on hawk mim23





Mim23 or maybe sedjeel on tomcat





I'm very sorry I think all of this capability would be very cool but there isn't one video showing an actual MiM-23 FIRING and HITTING a target after being launched by an F-14. It cannot tune to the AWG-9. What you've read is largely intentional misleading information to fluff their jet's capabilities. It is amazing that they fly at all but I seriously doubt the ability to maintain the AWG-9 as a fully capable system and doubt all press releases that state otherwise. I think a very realistic capability is long range search and attacking with AIM-9Js. If Iran had a radar missile capability they would film it in HD4k resolution and send to every News outlet in the world. What they have now are press releases and ideas and prototypes and drop tests and separation tests and models. What they have not demonstrated in the past twenty years is the ability to destroy an A-A target with an American made radar guided weapon. I'd guess their MiG-29s are in better shape. ( this coming from a 20 years avionics tech)
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aim54 is an 50 years old missile since it was designed.
do you guys still think it's still a high tech firework like half century ago.
maybe you guys still use 8086 to play our dear dcsw.
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What WinterH said. We will probably be getting the B model first, the A model will be coming later. (According to Cobra)
Yeah....which makes me think, if A and B come out as separate full priced modules, i might actually wait for the A, after all it is the bird i'll spend 90% of my time in the air with.....
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I'm very sorry I think all of this capability would be very cool but there isn't one video showing an actual MiM-23 FIRING and HITTING a target after being launched by an F-14. It cannot tune to the AWG-9. What you've read is largely intentional misleading information to fluff their jet's capabilities. It is amazing that they fly at all but I seriously doubt the ability to maintain the AWG-9 as a fully capable system and doubt all press releases that state otherwise. I think a very realistic capability is long range search and attacking with AIM-9Js. If Iran had a radar missile capability they would film it in HD4k resolution and send to every News outlet in the world. What they have now are press releases and ideas and prototypes and drop tests and separation tests and models. What they have not demonstrated in the past twenty years is the ability to destroy an A-A target with an American made radar guided weapon. I'd guess their MiG-29s are in better shape. ( this coming from a 20 years avionics tech)
Let me get this straight, what you are saying is that you think that Iran doesn't have the ability to operate and use the F-14 as a weapons platform to fire the AIM54 missile? Is that because they have no more AIM54s, can't reverse engineer any, or do you think that they never had this ability?
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Yeah....which makes me think, if A and B come out as separate full priced modules, i might actually wait for the A, after all it is the bird i'll spend 90% of my time in the air with.....
It has been stated that the both versions will be available in one package, or as one module. Kind of like the L39C and ZA are.
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