lwalter Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I bought the JF-17 on first day... but I didn't see it appear in my DCS stable install. So I guess it's only available in beta for now :( Is there already a date for when it will be in stable release as well? iMac Retina 5K, 27-inch, i7 4 GHz, 32 GB RAM, AMD R9 M395X 4 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | Cougar MFD | MFG Crosswind | EDTracker Pro | Realteus ForceFeel DCS World | Bf109 | Fw190 A8/D9 | P47 | P51 | Spitfire | I16 | C101 | L39 | F86F | MiG15 | MiG19 | MiG21 | FC3 | A10C | AJS37 | AV8BNA | F5 | F14 | F16 | F/A18 | M2000 | JF17 | Christen Eagle | Yak52 | SA342 | UH1H | Mi8 | Ka50 | Combined Arms | NS430 | Persian Gulf | Normandy | Channel | Syria | NTTR | WWII Assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 It's not up to Deka. It depends on when ED pushes the next Stable release, taking into account all modules and other DCS issues. Considering December 18th is supposed to be an OB update, I'd advice patience. Or just switch to Open Beta, all the cool kids are doing it. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester2138 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 In normal software practices, a beta and stable version are used to test and fix bugs in beta before moving features to stable. ED does not follow this practice and moves features to stable whether bugs are fixed or not, so IMO there's next to zero point to using their "stable" release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 In normal software practices, a beta and stable version are used to test and fix bugs in beta before moving features to stable. ED does not follow this practice and moves features to stable whether bugs are fixed or not, so IMO there's next to zero point to using their "stable" release. This. Beta tends to be a bit buggier than stable but anything game breaking tends to get fixed quick. Otherwise they do an open beta with new features, then a "fixer" release a week or two later then another one if needed and then move that to stable. Its easy to switch back to stable too if OB isnt your thing. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Basically when you run Stable and getting an update you'll just get what the OB guys got at least a week ago, with no changes to it. So you're just waiting longer without any advantage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag80 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Same happened to me. I bought it but did not show in module manager. Then I read the description again and it said requires beta version. Guys when will it be released for stable version? any idea ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorban Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I am going to guess when ED releases the next Stable version update. Best to check how often and when ED updates the stable version. Current Hangar : A-10C II ¦ AJS-37 ¦ A/V-8B ¦ F-14A/B ¦ F/A-18C ¦ FC3 ¦ JF-17 ¦ Ka-50 III ¦ Mi-8 ¦ M2000-C ¦ SA342 ¦ UH-1H Other Modules : Combined Arms ¦ Persian Gulf TRAINED - LEARNING - LOW EXPERIENCE - ABANDONED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I deleted stable and only use open beta since most modules are EA. AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 32GB Adata Spectrix D50 3600 Mhz (16x2) | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | My Files | Windows 10 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwalter Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 How large is the beta install? If for example I have 100 GB of stable, should I expect about 200 GB of stable + beta? Or would the beta reuse resources from the stable, like maps or aircrafts, and just add what’s new or updated. I’m asking because I have limited space on my disk. . iMac Retina 5K, 27-inch, i7 4 GHz, 32 GB RAM, AMD R9 M395X 4 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | Cougar MFD | MFG Crosswind | EDTracker Pro | Realteus ForceFeel DCS World | Bf109 | Fw190 A8/D9 | P47 | P51 | Spitfire | I16 | C101 | L39 | F86F | MiG15 | MiG19 | MiG21 | FC3 | A10C | AJS37 | AV8BNA | F5 | F14 | F16 | F/A18 | M2000 | JF17 | Christen Eagle | Yak52 | SA342 | UH1H | Mi8 | Ka50 | Combined Arms | NS430 | Persian Gulf | Normandy | Channel | Syria | NTTR | WWII Assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmek Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Both versions are separate installs and don't share resources. You can run both in parallel (which does make little sense in my opinion) by installing beta next to stable or change stable to beta. Just search on the forum, it's an easy process. And frankly speaking, there is little reason to use stable version in DCS. You mostly get only the drawbacks of getting everything, new modules and even patches late for pretty much no value added - I can't really recall something in beta being heavily broken while working in stable. F/A-18, F-16, F-14, M-2000C, A-10C, AV-8B, AJS-37 Viggen, F-5E-3, F-86F, MiG-21bis, MiG-15bis, L-39 Albatros, C-101 Aviojet, P-51D, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, Bf 109 4-K, UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50, NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf... and not enough time to fully enjoy it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimmergloom667 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 How large is the beta install? If for example I have 100 GB of stable, should I expect about 200 GB of stable + beta? Or would the beta reuse resources from the stable, like maps or aircrafts, and just add what’s new or updated. I’m asking because I have limited space on my disk. . You can move your stable to beta with literally one command and a few megs of delta download. You don't need both. There is next to no reason to run stable in the first place. i7 - 9700K | 32 GB DDR4 3200 | RTX 2080 | VKB Gunfighter Mk II /w MCG Pro | Virpil T-50CM2 Throttle | TrackIR 5 | VKB Mk. IV AJS-37 | A/V-8B | A-10C | F-14A/B | F-16C | F-18C | F-86F | FC3 | JF-17 | Ka-50 | L-39 | Mi-8 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19 | MiG-21bis | M2000-C | P-51D | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo5725 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Reply to Thread I had the same concerns before I purchased the module but found out it's real easy to update to beta and revert to stable, if needed. Does not make sense to have two separate installations. From your ?:\DCS World\bin folder run DCS_updater.exe in command mode and type: update @ openbeta To revert to stable type: update @ release Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwalter Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 I had the same concerns before I purchased the module but found out it's real easy to update to beta and revert to stable, if needed. Does not make sense to have two separate installations. From your ?:\DCS World\bin folder run DCS_updater.exe in command mode and type: update @ openbeta To revert to stable type: update @ release Hope this helps. Thanks a lot Mongo! That's exactly what I'm looking for... but I now realise it doesn't work with DCS installed from Steam :( iMac Retina 5K, 27-inch, i7 4 GHz, 32 GB RAM, AMD R9 M395X 4 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | Cougar MFD | MFG Crosswind | EDTracker Pro | Realteus ForceFeel DCS World | Bf109 | Fw190 A8/D9 | P47 | P51 | Spitfire | I16 | C101 | L39 | F86F | MiG15 | MiG19 | MiG21 | FC3 | A10C | AJS37 | AV8BNA | F5 | F14 | F16 | F/A18 | M2000 | JF17 | Christen Eagle | Yak52 | SA342 | UH1H | Mi8 | Ka50 | Combined Arms | NS430 | Persian Gulf | Normandy | Channel | Syria | NTTR | WWII Assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobiSev Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Thanks a lot Mongo! That's exactly what I'm looking for... but I now realise it doesn't work with DCS installed from Steam :( For Steam, right click DCS, go into the properties section, betas tab, then select the open beta with "public" in it from the drop down menu. Modules owned: FC3, M-2000C, Mig-21bis, F-5E, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, KA-50, Mi-8, F-14A&B, JF-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwalter Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 For Steam, right click DCS, go into the properties section, betas tab, then select the open beta with "public" in it from the drop down menu. Thanks MobiSev! That worked for me. I couldn't imagine it was actually so easy. Thanks all for your answers and advice! I'll definitely use the open beta from now on. iMac Retina 5K, 27-inch, i7 4 GHz, 32 GB RAM, AMD R9 M395X 4 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | Cougar MFD | MFG Crosswind | EDTracker Pro | Realteus ForceFeel DCS World | Bf109 | Fw190 A8/D9 | P47 | P51 | Spitfire | I16 | C101 | L39 | F86F | MiG15 | MiG19 | MiG21 | FC3 | A10C | AJS37 | AV8BNA | F5 | F14 | F16 | F/A18 | M2000 | JF17 | Christen Eagle | Yak52 | SA342 | UH1H | Mi8 | Ka50 | Combined Arms | NS430 | Persian Gulf | Normandy | Channel | Syria | NTTR | WWII Assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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