Lithion Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I wonder if those “actual recorded parameters” are being used IN ADDITION to wind tunnel data.... or if the “actual recorded parameters” are being used INSTEAD of wind tunnel data... and how this would relate to the P-47 module! Maybe they can take what they learned about how to record Yak-52 parameters, and what parameters they need to create a fully realistic flight model... and apply that so they can attach the recording devices to a P-47 and get all the parameters in one flight to reduce costs. My only concern is I don’t think they currently fly P-47’s as hard as they did during WWII... so how realistic would the recordings be? You'd have to find a Thunderbolt that still flies, and it'd have to be of the same type they're looking to create. Additionally, the way The Fighter Collection models their planes might not rest on the same dev techniques/tools they're using for the Yak-52. On the other hand, maybe they are testing the tech out on the Yak-52 for validity, to see if it could be used for the P-47 also. No way to know for sure 'till we hear anything new on the P-47. T.16000m HOTAS + Pedals || TrackIR5 || Win10 64bit || 120+500GB SSD, 1TB HDD || i5 4440 @3.3GHz || 16GB RAM @ 1600MHz || GTX1070 G1 || FCIII, L39ZA, AJS-37, Normandy '44, Persian Gulf, Channel F/A-18C, Bf-109 K-4, WW2 Asset Pack, CA, P-47, F-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigg Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 In the latest weekend update, there was an excerpt from Yo-Yo about the Yak WIP: “First, I would like to emphasize that the Yak 52 module is currently being tuned using actual recorded parameters from an actual Yak-52. This is why we call this a new stage in PFM development.” I wonder if those “actual recorded parameters” are being used IN ADDITION to wind tunnel data.... or if the “actual recorded parameters” are being used INSTEAD of wind tunnel data... and how this would relate to the P-47 module! Maybe they can take what they learned about how to record Yak-52 parameters, and what parameters they need to create a fully realistic flight model... and apply that so they can attach the recording devices to a P-47 and get all the parameters in one flight to reduce costs. My only concern is I don’t think they currently fly P-47’s as hard as they did during WWII... so how realistic would the recordings be? yeah that is a good point, they are flown nowhere near as they were so the data wouldnt really match up to how we would want to fly them in the sim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted March 11, 2018 ED Team Share Posted March 11, 2018 Yo-Yo tried to explain what these values were that he was recording, and I had posed the question to him about recording a P-47D, the only challenge is really mounting the recording device. In the Yak its easier with the extra room/seat. The TFC I believe had a P-47D that was sold to a place in Texas, as well Paul Allen has one at FHC http://www.flyingheritage.com/Explore/The-Collection/United-States/Republic-P-47D-Thunderbolt.aspx So they are out there. The recorded data isnt the full FM wrapped up in a box, other data is needed. But If its possible I am sure they would love to have it. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Interesting!! So Yak FM could be a test bed to Warbirds and other hard to find data aircraft . That'd be great if the system and recorded info is reliable enough. I guess anyway Yak wind tunnel data is there, so data from one and another can be compared. Very, very interesting. Hope P-47 can be done one way or another to the quality we all expect after precedents. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 If I understand correctly, the Yak testing only provided additional information to the standard aerodynamic profile provided by windtunnel and other official testing. It filled in some areas between points of information. But the starting point was the standard profile provided by official testing, which is still lost for the P-47. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muehlema Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I really don't like the P47. There are plenty of other warbirds which I would love to see before any P47. X-Plane 11.5x / DCS 2.5.6 / P3Dv5 / Aerofly FS 2 / War Thunder Win10-x64 | ASUS Z390 Maximus VI | Intel i7-9700K @3.6GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | 2TB M2 PCI 4x | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Fenrir Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I really don't like the P47. There are plenty of other warbirds which I would love to see before any P47. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktoberfest Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I really don't like the P47. There are plenty of other warbirds which I would love to see before any P47. Lame attempt at trolling? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I really don't like the P47. There are plenty of other warbirds which I would love to see before any P47. I really like the P47. There are plenty of warbirds I'd love to see following it. So there ;) The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muehlema Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 :) X-Plane 11.5x / DCS 2.5.6 / P3Dv5 / Aerofly FS 2 / War Thunder Win10-x64 | ASUS Z390 Maximus VI | Intel i7-9700K @3.6GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | 2TB M2 PCI 4x | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflected Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 P47 end of 2018 confirmed. Cant wait, honestly. What makes you say that? I love the P-47, and I can't wait, but I have a feeling that we'll need to wait at least another year (judging by the lack of news about the development) Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrett_g Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 If all DCS is waiting on to finish this module is wind tunnel data.... does that mean the 3d model is complete? How about weapons load outs/configurations? Start up effects? I hope the other teams are still plugging away... but I kind of feel like they’ve all been diverted to other projects that will turn a profit faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithion Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 If all DCS is waiting on to finish this module is wind tunnel data.... does that mean the 3d model is complete? How about weapons load outs/configurations? Start up effects? I hope the other teams are still plugging away... but I kind of feel like they’ve all been diverted to other projects that will turn a profit faster. You're looking at this all wrong, the P-47 is not an option until they get that data. Don't expect the 'other teams' to even start development if they don't even have the data to finish the plane. There is no reason to start something they can't finish, instead, they're doing things like the Yak which will give them valuable insights to what actually gets a radial engine to tick. (don't forget all of the current ww2 planes are inline). In a way they're actually doing what you're hoping; they're not standing still. They'll visit the P-47 when they've actually got something to go with. Just as there is no reason to keep popping questions in this thread, or every time there is a Q&A.. They've said it before and I'll repeat them again; once there is something to say about the P-47, they'll let us know. T.16000m HOTAS + Pedals || TrackIR5 || Win10 64bit || 120+500GB SSD, 1TB HDD || i5 4440 @3.3GHz || 16GB RAM @ 1600MHz || GTX1070 G1 || FCIII, L39ZA, AJS-37, Normandy '44, Persian Gulf, Channel F/A-18C, Bf-109 K-4, WW2 Asset Pack, CA, P-47, F-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1966 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) Hello All, I have been doing some research into another project, and ran across some NACA docs I haven't seen yet. all are concerning P-47D, however the picture of the aircraft is showing a Razorback. so it's most likely a D-25, but they are testing the wing alone, so the data may or my not be valid, but it might fill in a gap or two. I cant help but think (pray) that the info needed is in an archive somewhere, we just have to find it. I am considering compiling all the already posted info's into one thread so we don't keep posting the same thing over and over, and wasting every ones time, but free time is short for the next month or so, maybe I will get to it then. So here is some more data, it may be helpful if more info was given on what is missing data wise. I do apologize if it was posted and I missed it. Edited April 17, 2018 by Andy1966 We are Virtual Pilots, a growing International Squad of pilots, we fly Allies in WWII and Red Force in Korea and Modern combat. We are recruiting like minded people of all Nationalities and skill levels. http://virtual-pilots.com/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 17, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 17, 2018 Yeah, I would think we have most if not all the available stuff on the net, but it never hurts to check, thanks! Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Looks like some work continues on this front. I wonder if necessary data is surfacing. Из ВК: Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saburo_cz Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 It looks amazing :thumbup: F-15E | F-14A/B P-51D | P-47D | Mosquito FB Mk VI |Spitfire | Fw 190D | Fw 190A | Bf 109K | WWII Assets Pack Normandy 2 | The Channel | Sinai | Syria | PG | NTTR | South Atlantic F/A-18 | F-86 | F-16C | A-10C | FC-3 | CA | SC | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drapion Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Good to see that the P-47 continues! Specs: Intel Core i7 8700k @5.0ghz | Asus Maximus X Hero | Corsair Vengeance LPX 16gb | Cooler Master ML240L RGB | Zotac 2060 Super AMP | Samsung 960 evo | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS Modules: F/A-18C Hornet | A-10C Warthog | AV-8B Harrier | BS2 | FC3 | NTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1966 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 That's Awesome news! Those cockpit shots look great. :yes: We are Virtual Pilots, a growing International Squad of pilots, we fly Allies in WWII and Red Force in Korea and Modern combat. We are recruiting like minded people of all Nationalities and skill levels. http://virtual-pilots.com/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvii-Dietrich Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just saw the newsletter.It is extremely encouraging to hear that they are continuing work on the P-47D and have not just given up due to lack-of-data. The cockpit details look superb. I am really looking forward to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just saw the newsletter.It is extremely encouraging to hear that they are continuing work on the P-47D and have not just given up due to lack-of-data. The cockpit details look superb. I am really looking forward to this one. Not to mention the CEO of the company has experience in a P-47D... why let all that go to waste :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale1986 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Read the Newsletter - absolutely amazing and encouraging!! Made my day!! Main Module: AH-64D Personal Wishlist: HH-60G, F-117A, B-52H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigg Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 omg omg omg she is coming. thank you so much ED i am one very happy boy. :thumbup::D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted April 20, 2018 Wait, what!? :O Is Groove the new CEO? Umm, no... Nick Grey. http://www.fighter-collection.com Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1966 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Umm.. Did anyone notice the lever on the left side of the throttle... the one with the "B" on it...for BOOST.. mixture also..man I cant wait for the jug We are Virtual Pilots, a growing International Squad of pilots, we fly Allies in WWII and Red Force in Korea and Modern combat. We are recruiting like minded people of all Nationalities and skill levels. http://virtual-pilots.com/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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