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Old 01-14-2020, 05:33 PM   #11
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Didn't that get canned as well?
Yup, WCMD-ER got canceled in 2006, shortly after failing a separation test. The USAF seems to think that the standard WCMD is sufficient for the missions it expects to fly, and it would appear that SFW submunitions are challenging to deliver by glide bomb.

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That's only because the mob came after ED with torches and pitchforks. ED had initially had it on the weapons list, but removed it just before pre-orders when live. ED also removed triple rack Mavs since they were not used on the version of the F-16 that we have.
Ahhh, DCS drama. It just seems silly to me, since Mavs on tripple racks were a thing that was done and can easily be done again, while JSOW-B never went beyond low-rate production. But whatever, it's a game and we're all here to have fun right?
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Old 01-14-2020, 06:29 PM   #12
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That's only because the mob came after ED with torches and pitchforks. ED had initially had it on the weapons list, but removed it just before pre-orders when live. ED also removed triple rack Mavs since they were not used on the version of the F-16 that we have.


Rather that continue to face the storm, ED added both back in.
Wow, didn't realise they'd backed down on the triple rack Mavs. Hopefully they code into the damage model a suitably high probability of the third round's motor burning your flaperons off?
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:25 PM   #13
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Wow, didn't realise they'd backed down on the triple rack Mavs. Hopefully they code into the damage model a suitably high probability of the third round's motor burning your flaperons off?
That would be a nice way to give in to the pressure BUT make it pretty much unusable in a realistic way haha
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Old 01-15-2020, 08:43 PM   #14
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Ahhh, DCS drama. It just seems silly to me, since Mavs on tripple racks were a thing that was done and can easily be done again, while JSOW-B never went beyond low-rate production. But whatever, it's a game and we're all here to have fun right?
The Air Force doesn't carry three Mavs on the triple rack though, because the rocket motor plug in the mav can hit and cause critical damage to the stabilator.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:19 PM   #15
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The Air Force doesn't carry three Mavs on the triple rack though, because the rocket motor plug in the mav can hit and cause critical damage to the stabilator.
Isn't that something that was done at one point and then changed? Or am I getting confused between the F-16 and A-10?
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Old 01-16-2020, 08:44 AM   #16
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Isn't that something that was done at one point and then changed? Or am I getting confused between the F-16 and A-10?
In the A10 AFAIK the triple-MAV rack isn't used because the inner MAV would potentially cause damage to the landing gear. I also read that the TGP should be set to standby mode while launching the outer MAV on the same wing to avoid damaging the optics
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Old 01-16-2020, 01:30 PM   #17
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The Air Force doesn't carry three Mavs on the triple rack though, because the rocket motor plug in the mav can hit and cause critical damage to the stabilator.
That's for the F-16. The A-10 can still carry 2 Mavs on a triple rack. The inner third Mav's exhaust would potentially singe the landing gear and that why it's not used, or so I've read.
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Old 01-16-2020, 05:48 PM   #18
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Isn't that something that was done at one point and then changed? Or am I getting confused between the F-16 and A-10?

You're correct. 80's-era F-16s did fly with triple Mavs, but the LAU-88 (triple ejector rack) was discontinued for operational F-16 flights for reasons stated in this thread.

The drama llamas who complained said that the LAU-88 could have been used in wartime if the USAF needed it. Which I suppose is true, but that theory is true for a lot of things that could have been done but never were. The llamas don't want to acknowledge that our F-16 module isn't supposed to model the entire historical weapons loadout over a 30+ year lifespan. Unlike ED's Hornet, the Viper is supposed to be a snapshot of a mid-2000's F-16CJ.
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