kontiuka Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Dear all, thanks to the superb help of kontiuka, the F-86 manual is updated and will be available to you with the next patch.My pleasure :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redglyph Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 My pleasure :) Thanks a lot! :) System specs: Win7 x64 | CPU: i7-4770K | RAM: 16 GB | GPU: GTX 980 Ti 6 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS | MFG rudder pedals | SATA3 SSD | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-0303- Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) The numbering and lettering references on manual page 178 is about 80% wrong. For starters Normal and Alternate reservoirs are switched. I edited out my corrected page because: a) Original was even more erroneous than I noticed. Reference 8 for example is not identical both sides. I could swallow left side not having double bottles until I noticed both are referenced "8" when they actually are different. b) I want to make my correction 100 % consistent in only using naming/spelling from the original "T.O. 1F-86F-1" document. Edit edit: The F-86F-35 version actually does have a single bottle both sides (as opposed earlier 'block no') but they are still not the same or correctly referenced. Updated newfound errors: alternate return I'll just leave the (updated) errors and the "T.O. 1F-86F-1" document. Errors: Multiple F-86 docs uploaded by drPhibes 5 years ago. F-86F Flt Manual + perf data.pdf (pdf 46) Edited July 14, 2019 by -0303- Intel Core i7 3630QM @ 2.40GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.40 GHz) | 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz | 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 635M | 447GB KINGSTON SA400S37480G (SATA-2 (SSD)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglejett Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 The manual indicates a "CA N O P Y MA N U A L OP E R A T I N G HA N D L E". is actually a canopy breakaway tool. In the event the canopy will not open, it allows the pilot to use the tool as a hammer to break the canopy glass. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/russian-pilots-canopy-knife-rescue-534009272 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-0303- Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) The corrected Figure 5.8 page 178 (see previous post #128). Been ready for a year but I lost interest ... Made a new page 178 (complete with drop shadows) and replaced page 178 in the DCS PDF manual. But I'm not allowed to upload a new PDF I think and even if I were, there are multiple more pages that are also wrong, it's to much. Anyway, here's a max resolution 8126x10632 bitmap (well, it would be, except imgur compressed & reduced size (7MB -> 2MB) on upload) of my corrected Fig 5.8 page 178 PDF. I really enjoyed digging into the F-86F blueprints and made every effort making sure this is correct for our version F-86F-35. Note, names are all copied from the original manual, skipping the made up names in the DCS manual. I wanted to be more ambitious and improve the text blurb which is unclear (before losing interest). I'll say something about that now. DCS manual says, page 179: Each of the booster systems is capable of completely relieving the loads on the control stick which arise when control surfaces (ailerons, stabilizers, elevators) change their deflection. This doesn't make clear that the stick forces are completely 100% artificial with zero zilch aerodynamic force stick feedback. The F-86F stick resembles more than anything else a spring loaded joystick working exactly as our desktop joysticks. One difference, the F-86F trim moves the spring loaded center position of the "joystick". The sticks position directly control hydraulic actuators, which, again, are completely disconnected from the stick. Rudders are conventionally connected with wires (so from the rudder one would feel aerodynamic forces). ~ The original manuals are really good, read them before the DCS manuals. Find here. They would be, one would expect, written for real, not for a game, and also, counting 1949-1994 service, 45 years of pilot correcting feedbacks (there's forms for that in the manuals). Edited June 24, 2020 by -0303- Intel Core i7 3630QM @ 2.40GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.40 GHz) | 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz | 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 635M | 447GB KINGSTON SA400S37480G (SATA-2 (SSD)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Thanks for sharing this info .. I’m not flying the Sabre at the moment, but will save your diagrams for when I do return to it. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmburnzy Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Anybody know where I can get the F-86 Manual? The link seems to be broken? Just reading some of the posts after I posted! BAD ME, Sorry but looks like this forum has been around for a while and not much interest in it. I would rather not waste my money as I have just found this so could someone let me know if it is worth following this simulator? Thank you Edited January 10, 2021 by jmburnzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, jmburnzy said: Anybody know where I can get the F-86 Manual? here, you can download a copy of mine: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26gfkOnyF13tHwN6LfKw For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machalot Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 9 hours ago, jmburnzy said: Anybody know where I can get the F-86 Manual? The link seems to be broken? Just reading some of the posts after I posted! BAD ME, Sorry but looks like this forum has been around for a while and not much interest in it. I would rather not waste my money as I have just found this so could someone let me know if it is worth following this simulator? Thank you If you own the F-86 module, the manual should be in your installation folder under ...\DCS\Mods\aircraft\F-86\Doc "Subsonic is below Mach 1, supersonic is up to Mach 5. Above Mach 5 is hypersonic. And reentry from space, well, that's like Mach a lot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Machalot said: If you own the F-86 module, the manual should be in your installation folder under ...\DCS\Mods\aircraft\F-86\Doc from the OP wording, he has not purchased it yet. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machalot Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Rudel_chw said: from the OP wording, he has not purchased it yet. Ah, I see. "Subsonic is below Mach 1, supersonic is up to Mach 5. Above Mach 5 is hypersonic. And reentry from space, well, that's like Mach a lot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmburnzy Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Actually I have purchased it and thank you so much for the manual for the f-86 Anybody know where I can get the F-86 Manual? The link seems to be broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, jmburnzy said: Actually I have purchased it and thank you so much for the manual for the f-86 Anybody know where I can get the F-86 Manual? The link seems to be broken? above is a link to the ED manual... do you mean a link to the manual of the real Sabre? For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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