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For me it's the F-18. I've basically given up on it as I don't think I'll ever complete a carrier landing successfully. I find it impossible to find a throttle setting that will maintain a steady rate of decline and it seems hyper-sensitive to throttle changes so I end up zooming up and down like a possessed roller coaster.

 

 

I know it's not a help thread... but you don't keep the throttle in the same position... and you actually move it back and forth rather quickly edging toward the higher end if you need to go up or lower if down. Watch this video and you will see what I mean:

 

 

As far as what I have the toughest time landing? WW2 birds... even stalling down is really nerve wracking.

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For me it's the F-18.

 

I agree,

 

That is so strange. For me the F-18 is the easiest and most intuitive aircraft to fly. From day one I’ve been making acceptable carrier traps, my first stab at the tanker was an uneventful success, high alpha maneuvering is a blast, and field landings are the most straightforward in DCS.

To me the most challenging aircraft to learn to fly (and land) well are the helicopters. It took me a long time before my Huey landings weren’t a wobbly mess. And that Mi-8 VRS! It still occasionally gets me, though I’m much better now at slipping out before disaster.

And it’s been a while since I’ve flown them but I never felt really comfortable landing the MiG-21, and to a lesser extent the F-5. Both aircraft are unforgiving low and slow: allow the sink rate to get away from you and you’re in real trouble.

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Spitfire and Fw190 for me as well. These taildraggers just won't behave. :D

 

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Definitely the Polikarpov I-16 aka "Rata" or "Mosca". This aircraft has no trim feature at all. When the gear and flaps are down she wants to soar into the sky and you have to push the stick hard all the time. And when you have touched down you have to work hard to avoid a pirouette or worse. Even taxying is difficult. Take-off is difficult too as rudder priority kicks in very quickly. If you can manage take-off and landing with the I-16, you will not find any of the warbirds difficult.

 

This one for me as well exactly as described.

 

I find it impossible to find a throttle setting that will maintain a steady rate of decline and it seems hyper-sensitive to throttle changes so I end up zooming up and down like a possessed roller coaster.

 

The F-18 is harder to land than the F-14 on a carrier, that's for sure. But you need to get into the habit of constantly walking the throttle back-and-forth to counter/anticipate the engine response. There is no single throttle setting that you can just apply and ride her all the way to touchdown.

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The Spitfire for me.

 

 

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Spitfire and MiG-21 for me.

 

Easiest are F/A-18 and F-14 :music_whistling:

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Mig21 and Mi-8 for me,

 

Mig21 because in the final flare before touchdown you can't see the runway anymore, and because it's kind of difficult to manage speed without lowering the throttle enough.

I manage to "land" almost every time, but I do break a wheel now and then.

For maximum fun, try landing it with some crosswind.

 

But anyway, now I am able to land the mig, the AV8, A10C and M2000 are a walk in the park.

 

The Mi-8 because it's hard to keep it pointing in the right direction, while not drifting, overshooting or ending up in a vortex ring-state.

I've been switching some hardware (got rudder pedals instead of a twist-stick) recently, and it feels like flying a whole other helicopter.

The plus side is that it allows you to really quickly get used to new hardware, as you are constantly moving all the available axes.

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I'd say the easiest to land are the F-18 and the F-14 on carriers. Some of the land based fighters, new and old, take just a bit more effort to get right. Within that group of land based aircraft you still have some that are more tricky than others but all are worth the effort to learn.

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Mi-8. UH-1H, then maybe Me-109 but i don´t have it so I would not know.

The jets are easy to land, but not tat easy to master.

 

P.S. carrier based Planes, easy to land with a 2 mile final (on the groove)...

Now to master the brake and carrier Qualification grade landings takes a LOT of training.

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For fixed wings I find the P51 actually to be the most challenging on landings, closely followed by the 109 and 190 (i don't have the spitfire so i won't put it in the list).

Modern planes aren't that difficult once you figure out how the controls act/react to the landing configuration (F18 i'm looking at you ;) )

For rotaries, i'd say the Mi8 hand down

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Harrier, windy day, on carrier.

 

I was going to say the Harrier too, I just got it yesterday and I have not landed yet :) but it is a much more complex plane than any other. I love flipping switches especially now that I have my PointControl devices but man there is a lot to remember.

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Right now, F-14 case 1 pattern is the hardest to land for me. Getting the proper 3/4 mile groove entry is a roll of the dice until I can get better at all the prior checkpoints.

 

It’s been a while since I tried but I remember the F-15 was difficult for me to land without bursting a tire.

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I have most modules. For me the hardest to land are:

 

· · · Helicopters: Mi-8 is massive and very prone to VRS

· · · · ·Warbirds: Bf-109 being fragile, with narrow gear and the usual taildragger issues.

· · · · · · · ·Jets: MiG-21 due to poor visibility and poor low-speed handling

 

PS: for me the easiest are the Yak-52 (good vis, good slow speed handling, tricycle-gear, etc.) and SA342 (superb power-to-weight ratio and autohover).

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Hardest to land, for me:

 

MiG-21 first and MiG-29 second.

 

Although when the MiG-29 PFM first came out, I do recognize it could be a nightmare for everyone not used to.

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BF-109 hands down. Narrow on the gears and hard to keep center. For those having trouble with the F-18, check out Redkite, Grim Reapers, or Spudknocker on YouTube. All OUTSTANDING tutorials on carrier recoveries. Helped me tremendously. And if you have not done it yet, go VR, I can not stress enough how much easier it makes carrier landing and flying helos. My first landing on a carrier with harrier was the cats ass!

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The Bf-109 is easy compared with the Polikarpov I-16. The I-16 is a bit of a nightmare for taxi, take-off and landing. But if you like a challenge it'ss the right thing to buy. Once you have learned to manage it, none of the war birds are really difficult to take off or land.

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P-51. Both take off and landing is a challenge for me.

 

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The P-51 is probably the easiest of the Warbirds in take-off and landing. Especially the Bf-109 took a lot of practice and still requires my full attention during landing.

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