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Old 01-14-2020, 05:21 PM   #1
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Which Japanese aircraft do we want for the Pacific? I'm not very well educated on them and aside from the Zero I'm not sure which are most relevant. So to those of you who know, which would be the most important to flesh out the theatre?
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:42 PM   #2
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I'm unsure if you are asking for modules or AI, we know there is a Zero at least planned so for me I'd like to see both the B5N Kate and either the D3A or D4Y (the latter of which I believe saw action in the Marianas).

With the Zero as a fighter, these two options would add both a dive bomber and a torpedo bomber into the mix; a trio of roles I would also love to see the represented on both sides, as an example the Avenger and Dauntless for the US.

I'm sure there are people out there who will correct me on any historical inaccuracies/discrepancies for the time periods but I think these three roles for both sides would make for a very interesting and dynamic line up with a relatively small number of planes needed.

From my understanding information required to make complete Japanese aircraft modules is hard to come by, and so as much as I would love for the two I mentioned to be modules, I would still think they would be great additions even if limited to AI.

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Old 01-14-2020, 05:48 PM   #3
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I meant either AI or full module but your answer was just what I was looking for. It will be difficult to get enough information to do full modules but hopefully some will be manageable.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:51 PM   #4
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The G4M Betty would be my first choice. Long range, land based level and torpedo bomber operated by the IJN. Can double as transport. It does not require the presence of an aircraft carrier but can threaten any allied fleet while realistically operating from outside the map if necessary.

As an AI plane the G4M would be hugely valuable until the Japanese fleet can be modeled.

Since Magnitude is already developing the A6M5 Model 52, I would also opt for its predecessor A6M2. Refitted older A6M2 Zero models were used as (also carrier based) dive bombers in the 1944 time frame, as supplement and replacement for the dwindling number of D3As.
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Old 01-14-2020, 06:10 PM   #5
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The G4M Betty would be my first choice. Long range, land based level and torpedo bomber operated by the IJN. Can double as transport. It does not require the presence of an aircraft carrier but can threaten any allied fleet while realistically operating from outside the map if necessary.[...]
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:07 PM   #6
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Well, if I may recommend something for your wishes, since it's Marianas, aircraft relevant for 1944 Battle of Philippine Sea should be mentioned, namely:
Combined fleet:
- A6M2 and A6M5 fighters and fighter - bombers
- B6N and B5N torpedo bombers
- D3A2 and D4Y1 dive bombers
Land based units:
- A6M5 fighters
- G4M2 and P1Y bombers
- J1N1 twin-engine fighters
- D4Y dive bombers
- L2D and G5N2-N transport aircraft
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:17 PM   #7
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Thanks Hiro! Any of those stand out to you or anything interesting to share about any of them? I know assets are all a long way off but I'd like to learn more about the Japanese side through discussion.
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:05 PM   #8
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D4Y because it's probably the fastest dive bomber around. In 1942 they packed two of those (in 1942 it was only a reconnaissance aircraft) on board of IJN Soryu for combat evaluation during Midway Operation. One of them did its job, but obviously ended up in water. But in a level flight that soon to be capable dive bomber could outrun Wildcat
Plus I love the shape of that thing. Really clean lines.

Dont think I have to talk about Zeros. They are as legendary as Hellcat and Wildcat.

Another cool aircraft is P1Y which was a fast twin-engine bomber, fairly similar to German Ju-88 but with more emphasis on speed and ability to deliver torpedoes. Battle of Philippine Sea was it's combat debut. Unit which brought them to the Marianas was led by Takashige Egusa, dive bombing expert and creator of Japanese dive bombing doctrine. He perished during the battle during early morning attack I believe.

All in all Japanese had a mixed setup of older and newer designs. D3A, B5N and G4M were dated designs by that time of the war. Then you had newer machines such as D4Y, B6N, P1Y or C6N which were in most things comparable to US contemporaries. In some ways they bested them, in others they fell short.
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:46 PM   #9
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Army aircraft Oscar, which was an excellent aircraft because it had automatic air combat flaps
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:54 AM   #10
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Since the first american Fighter we are getting is the Corsair I think you need the K Fighters.
I woudl say a Ki-84 to make it interesting, the Zero as legendary as it is, is no macth for the Corsair.

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