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Old 11-14-2019, 01:33 AM   #1961
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Yes that's why I add that it's probably something that wouldn't interrest people here.
But the 4 guns with more ammo or the "field modified" with the possibility to use half guns to save ammo for later in the 4 other would be a good thing. Not for short dogfight like on BS server. But for long mission, it would be great addition.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:32 AM   #1962
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perform anything like the .50s
I'm a groundpounder and I routinely destroy even light armor (BMPs, BRDMs and such) with the .50s. So nothing wrong with them as far as I've noticed.

A more likely culprit IMO is the plane DMs not being up to par, and MP network packet losses may play a part as well. But there's nothing wrong with the guns / ammo per se that I can see at least.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:14 AM   #1963
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I have varying results - sometimes I pepper a guy for ages and nowt much seems to happen, others a single solid burst can cause a catastrophic failure.

Much depends on convergence, and concentrating a large number of shots in a focused area.

Having said that, that is the realistic compromise of a heavy machine gun round vs a cannon, you sacrifice stopping power of an individual shell for a combination of rate of fire/combined weight of fire.

However that requires the pilot to be able to land enough rounds in a given small area that allows the rate/weight concentration to be effective. This requires a good understanding of your convergence pattern, where it is most effective, what the target should look like depending on aspect when it's at convergence range, how adjust your aim for when the target is not at optimum convergence range and then top that off with calculating the correct lead for the targets aspect.

There is a famous gun camera film of a P-47 saddled behind a Fw-190, apparently wounded/damaged as the pilot makes no attempt to evade, and we see the Jug bobbing around well under convergence range unable to stabilise for a good shot but firing nonetheless and predictably he ends up peppering but not getting any concentrated bursts on the 190. None of these individual hits seems to cause much apparent damage, certainly not enough to bring the 190 down.

On the flip side you see footage of Fw-190s and 109s attacked that look far better set up for the convergence range which suffer catastrophic damage when a concentrated pattern of fire can be sustained during a good tracking shot.

I think the new damage model will help somewhat but I also suspect you're over endowing the .50s capabilities on a single hit basis.

From my experience its shooting from behind that is the problem. I can take them down quickly from side/top/below but from behind they absorb so much fire.



I made this video to show what I am talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLuvo7rZsY&t=1s


It seems you have to shoot them so much that the rear section of the aircraft comes off. Anything less and they keep flying at the same speed as if they were undamaged.



Yes, being at convergence range helps a lot. I agree that cannons are more effective but I do think that the .50s may be under performing a bit.
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:15 PM   #1964
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the .50s may be under performing a bit
I'm pretty certain they're not. See my post above. It's the DM.
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