F-5E nose gear steering etc.

Hello

I hope someone can help me.

I cant make the F-5E nose gear steering to work. Even if I click "S".

I use a Logitech 3d pro joystick and I dont have any pedals.

(In the Mirage 2000 I hit "S" and then use my stick to steer the plane when taxing)

I also wonder (i'm not an exspert) how to avoid the plane just keep going up after the takeoff...

(sorry for my bad English)

Hi

 

you have to press and hold the nosewheel steering button to use it.

 

are you trimming correctly for take off?

 

the flight manual can be found here

 

DCS World\Mods\aircraft\F-5E\Doc

 

hope that helps

Thank you :) I guess I have to study the manual when I got home from work today.

I tryed to hold down the steering button but it did not help. But the trimming I dont know...LOL :)

The elevator trim gauge is tricky to see, it is to the left of the HUD, up under the glareshield. You need to drop your view down a bit to see it.

There is a chart in the manual with the trim setting based on weight to use for T/O.

Thank you both. I now understand the elevator trim. The nose Wheel seem to be unable to work in "game mode" (easy mode) like I like to play it. I can click on the button on the stick in the plane but it does not help to add the button to the joystick or press "S" in the game mode. So I Guess I just have to take off from the runnaway...

Thank you both. I now understand the elevator trim. The nose Wheel seem to be unable to work in "game mode" (easy mode) like I like to play it. I can click on the button on the stick in the plane but it does not help to add the button to the joystick or press "S" in the game mode. So I Guess I just have to take off from the runnaway...

When you bring up the Controls for the F-5; try pressing "S". The list should go to what the control is when you press "S"; is nothing happens then it is not mapped to that key command. If so, then in the drop down menu (where you can navigate to Systems, Stick, Throttle Quadrant, etc.) there is a search feature at the top. Try typing "nose" or "steering". That should help you find the NWS and then you can map it to whatever you want - keyboard/HOTAS/flight stick.

When you bring up the Controls for the F-5; try pressing "S". The list should go to what the control is when you press "S"; is nothing happens then it is not mapped to that key command. If so, then in the drop down menu (where you can navigate to Systems, Stick, Throttle Quadrant, etc.) there is a search feature at the top. Try typing "nose" or "steering". That should help you find the NWS and then you can map it to whatever you want - keyboard/HOTAS/flight stick.

I do find the "S" in controls in sim mode and program it to a button on my joystick. But nothing happening in the game. I need to use the mouse to press and hold the button on the stick inside the plane with my left hand and use my joystick on the right. Very hard way to do it.

I dont have any problem with the Mirage 2000 that also use "S" for activate the nose wheel.

If you're flying in game mode, you'll also need to map the keys in the F-5E game category.

The sim category will not apply to game mode use.

If you're flying in game mode, you'll also need to map the keys in the F-5E game category.

 

The sim category will not apply to game mode use.

Yes, but the game mode have no option to map the key for the nose wheel. And it does not help to hit "S" in the game aider.

On the issue of nose wheel steering.... I was thinking just the other day, is the behaviour realistic?

If you go full right rudder, and then press the nose wheel steering button, the plane will go hard right almost instantaneously. Does the wheel really turn that quickly?

On the issue of nose wheel steering.... I was thinking just the other day, is the behaviour realistic?

 

If you go full right rudder, and then press the nose wheel steering button, the plane will go hard right almost instantaneously. Does the wheel really turn that quickly?

Nose wheel stearing is actuated by a hydraulic piston or pistons controlled by a servo valve. If you force the spool valve wide open (which is what happens when you press the button with full rudder) that piston will go to full travel in a little over a second. I can't speak for the f5 directly but the aircraft I work on uses a similar sized system that has a wide open slew rate of 65-75 degrees per second. So the modeled behavior is not unreasonable.

AOG

The ironic is that in "sim mode" it is easy to use the nose wheel and in game mode "easy mode" you will need to do it the difficult way by pressing the button using the mouse on the stick inside the plane while use the other hand controlling the rudder AND the speed at the same time.

Wish I had three hands so I could play easy mode LOL :)

Is it only me that not play in 100% sim mode with this plane? No one that have a solution for my nose wheel problem?

In Game Mode, there is no command "S" for nose wheel steering. The command only seems to exist for Sim Mode? Is there a reason for not being able to nose wheel steer the plane in Game Mode???

The ironic is that in "sim mode" it is easy to use the nose wheel and in game mode "easy mode" you will need to do it the difficult way by pressing the button using the mouse on the stick inside the plane while use the other hand controlling the rudder AND the speed at the same time.

Wish I had three hands so I could play easy mode LOL :)

Kind of ridiculous to make so few commands available in Game Mode.

Update on this problem?

I just tried to fly the craft for the first time, not knowing about until I crashed into a wall 3 times trying to get my nose wheel to turn.

has there been any kind of update on this being possible fixed? It is not possible to turn in this plane, especially being I don't have use of two arms fully to contort and use the method one user said he used.

Is this on the list for a fix?

We will check available input commands in game Mode and add missed ones. Sorry for inconvenience!

A half year have gone now and still no fix...Well...:music_whistling:

Are you keeping the NWS button pressed when trying to turn?

Yep, no go.. the 'game' mode does not have any way to turn the nosewheel on the F5 aircraft... I spent a couple hours trying to get it to work.. I know someone said they found some convoluted multi hand way but due to military injuries I am unable to do that.. and there is no simple key stroke option to turn on or off the nosewheel etc...

Also, I cannot seem to get my Tobii 4c to function in the Beta either.... I need my 4c working!!

? Of course you can turn. The only bug is that the NWS doesn't automatically center when releasing the NWS button.

No. Not in game mode.

Malakie didn't mention that he's talking about the game mode.

No, but I did and he was answering me wasnt he?

High speed ground handling in DCS: F-5E is problematic, a bit flawed, and kind of difficult. Especially on landing.

For departure, after centering on runway and raising oleo strut, turn NWS OFF, and use differential braking until 70knots, then use rudder untill lift-off.

On Landing.

On final, NWS OFF.

On touch down, use aero-breaking, and rudder.

On front gear touch down. Pop drag-chute. Keep NWS OFF. Use differential breaking and rudder until below 50 knots.

At 50 knots activate NWS, and keep chute. Release chute on a taxiway, and taxi to parking.

Gear breaks do not have NO SKID aka antilock breaks. If you press them more then 1/3 to 1/2 of amount, gear will lock and aircraft will skid out of control. Drag chute, IMHO, is the only way in this module to safely slow down to manageable ground speed.

There are two difficult to land fixed wing modules in DCS. F-5E and Mig-21bis.

Malakie didn't mention that he's talking about the game mode.

Take a look at my posts again, I clearly said 'GAME' mode.

High speed ground handling in DCS: F-5E is problematic, a bit flawed, and kind of difficult. Especially on landing.

For departure, after centering on runway and raising oleo strut, turn NWS OFF, and use differential braking until 70knots, then use rudder untill lift-off.

 

On Landing.

On final, NWS OFF.

On touch down, use aero-breaking, and rudder.

On front gear touch down. Pop drag-chute. Keep NWS OFF. Use differential breaking and rudder until below 50 knots.

At 50 knots activate NWS, and keep chute. Release chute on a taxiway, and taxi to parking.

Gear breaks do not have NO SKID aka antilock breaks. If you press them more then 1/3 to 1/2 of amount, gear will lock and aircraft will skid out of control. Drag chute, IMHO, is the only way in this module to safely slow down to manageable ground speed.

There are two difficult to land fixed wing modules in DCS. F-5E and Mig-21bis.

It is not the landing that's the issue right now.. It is actually trying to get out of the hardened hangar and turn onto the taxi way or even the runway.. You can't.

I can use NWS steering at low speed but on takeoff I cant use differential breaking I tap till ---- freezes over nothing and when I try to control it with NWS i eventually end up doing a ground loop I have set curves dead zones all with no luck how do I control this to keep it straight down the runway