YoYo Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 In VR mode: Normandy = stable 45 (reprojection ON), even near to ground (over trees) in fast flight. Channel = DCS has problem to recive this stable 45 fps, near ground I notice 30-33 fps with visible stutter. According me Channel map needs more optimalization still or less object. It will be nice to see here Normandy performance. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 ditto, its border line unplayable at the moment. the stutter is especially pronounced over built up areas and the white cliffs of dover ... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Yeah I cant fly in VR with this map unfortunately, low FPS and heavy stuttering. Normandy running really smooth as is all other maps. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolle Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 The stutter disappears after you've flown around in the map for some time. At least in does in my case... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core I7 4820K @4.3 GHz, Asus P9X79 motherboard, 16 GB RAM @ 933 MHz, NVidia GTX 1070 with 8 GB VRAM, Windows 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 How long was some time? SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motomouse Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I have a solution. Play at PD 0.5. ;-) The channel performance is really not good in VR. VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayos Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Channel Map is making my memory use go to 24GB, nowhere near that on the other maps. Slide show most of the time too. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpipe Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Glad i read this, wont be buying until it is confirmed acceptable as the general performance levels are low as is right now :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybaby68 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) Completely unplayable in VR at the moment. Re projection on. All maps in Reverb Pro are at 45. (SC on deck around 38 fps) Channel Map on ground between 26 and 33. In air between 33 and 41. Stutters are absolutely awful with terrible prop ghosting. My specs are i9-9900K @ 5GHz, 32 Gb DDR4 RAM, Ge Force GTX 1080 Ti, 1 Tb SSD, running an HP Reverb Pro on Reprojection with DCS settings which always gives me a comfortable 45 fps. Edited June 4, 2020 by skybaby68 i9 14900K - ROG Maximus Z790 Hero - GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4090 - 64GB Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 XMP - Samsung 4TB SSD - Pimax Crystal - Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle & Joystick - VirPil AH-64D Grip - Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylero68 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Samesies. Unfortunate, because it’s a beautiful map. 3700x, MSI 3080 Ventus 3x OC, 32 GB 3200mhz RAM, Rift S or Track IR, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Logitech Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Same. Looks like the issue is coming off the Frame Timing, which is through the roof at low level. i7 10700k @4.8GHz | Aurora GTX 3080 | Samsung NVMe m.2 970 Pro 1Tb x 3 | Corsair 64GB DDR4 3200MHz HP Reverb G2 | Vkb Gunfighter II MCG Pro Stick | Virpil T-50CM Throttle | MFG Crosswind Pedals | Custom built collective | 150 button custom cockpit with 3 x Cougar MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) Same. Bad FPS in channelmap in VR. I hoped for a FPS boost seen the new mapmaking technology but sadly not. Compared to NEVADA where i can fly 90 FPS is the CHANNELMAP between 35-45 FPS. I must get a 4080 TI for this. Oops about two years. (joke) :D Please ED take a look. Thank you. Edited June 4, 2020 by boedha68 New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 could this be VRam related? My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylero68 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 could this be VRam related? Not sure. But for reference I have a 1080ti which has 11gb of VRAM. 3700x, MSI 3080 Ventus 3x OC, 32 GB 3200mhz RAM, Rift S or Track IR, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Logitech Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 ditto SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RampantCoyote Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 So it's not just me... Heh - I came here specifically to see if I just had bad luck last night, or if anyone else was experiencing the same problems. Yeah, the stuttering was horrendous. For the record, I'm running a 2080Ti with a Pimax 5K+. I doubt I'm going to be playing this map very much until they optimize it / fix the performance hit / stuttering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramires Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Same:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz555 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Same here. Terrible performance. Incredible map detail though so looking forward to it becoming VR optimized. I also noticed how fast it feels at low altitude. More like what I would expect a fast jet to feel like. Asus Z790 PLUS WIFI D4, 13700K RTX 4090 FE, M2. HP Reverb G2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I've set my options to the VR default and made a few tweeks, my ground textures I've set to high Water I've set to high, Anisotropic filtering x4. The rest as I say is default VR setting. My pixel density is 1.5 but I use Oculus tray tool to override any game settings to do that. I have just done a simple ground attack mission in the P-47 with an A.I wingman 4 german ground vehicles and a Ju-88 and an FW-190A5 to shoot down. I flew over Dunkirk region then over the channel then over Dover then down to Hawkinge and landed. Unlike the other day I am able to maintain 45fps. I shall continue to play with the settings but I have a strong suspicion that MSAA has a huge effect on the channel map, obviously this is set to off with the default VR setting. Its a shame as I've always been able to use MSAA at x2 and maintain 45fps with all other maps including Normandy. To be fair to the guys that developed Normandy I was disappointed with it for a long while and performance was poor but with the last big update they did I think its improved massively they did a great job, but still hope one day colour saturation is improved for VR. Regards the channel map you can see the potential there but yes with MSAA disabled you get the downside, I can see a bit of flickering that the MSAA seems to deal with, I also doubt that you can add lots of ground and air objects without paying a huge price with FPS. But I would say to VR users give it another go with these settings and see if you notice a difference and hopefully ED can optimize things going forward. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0414 Wee Neal Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I also have the same issue with Rift S and RTX2080. Lovely map and great start on our EA road to nevana! Neal Desktop PC: Intel i7 14700K, MSI Z790 MAG Tomahawk MOBO, 64Gb RAM , GPU Nvidia RTX 3080ti Windows 11, VPC joystick, Crosswind rudder peddles, HP Reverb G2, VPC Collective, DOF Reality H2, Gametrix seat, WinWing panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_peters Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Not sure. But for reference I have a 1080ti which has 11gb of VRAM. same card with 11GB --- on the channel map it fills up and that's causing the stutter I'm sure even with minimum preload there is still a stutter due to vram being full must be a bug --------- System: i7-8700k @ 4.9GHz; Nvidia RTX 2080ti; 32GB (2 x 16) DDR4 @ 3333Mz Ram; ASUS ROG Strix z370-E; SSD Drive; Oculus Rift-S; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 it doesn't fill it up any more than it does on caucuses 10.7gb used on both on the same settings (albiet in thF-18 rather than the spit)... if you look at the CPU Frame times , this is what is causing the stuttering and poor fps, we can deal with up to 20-21ms maybe a little more on the graphics card side without falling out of Motion smoothing.. but your CPU is much less tolerant, if you go outside of 11ms you end up with a raw frame rate that introduces stuttering . reducing the draw distance to low turning off shadows, lens effects and heat blur, has quite a good impact on CPU times, and GPU times, but, you still end up with occasional CPU spikes in the yellow (above 11ms). I don't think its a bug i think its the total number of tablecloths / barrels crates and hedgerows etc... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggot Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Wow, that was horrible... just a few minutes of flight, but still feeling nausea from the stutters... I really hope this is not the intended performance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motomouse Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) It is possible to fly the map at very low settings with constant 60 FPS with my 3600X/16GB/1080TI/Reverb/ setup. (Shadows off, low view range, 0.8 PD) Do I want to fly this way everyday, no. This is just a headsup for those who think they can not fly the map at all, because of the poor performance with your standard settings. It is worth to try out the map at fluid 60 FPS with very low settings. Edited June 5, 2020 by Motomouse VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 It is possible to fly the map at very low settings with constant 60 FPS with my 3600X/16GB/1080TI/Reverb/ setup. (Shadows off, low view range, 0.8 PD) Do I want to fly this way everyday, no. This is just a headsup for those who think they can not fly the map at all, because of the poor performance with your standard settings. It is worth to try out the map at fluid 60 FPS with very low settings. agreed, if you turn the settings down enough it does become flyable SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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