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Old 05-26-2018, 04:27 PM   #131
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He turned off g-effects to demonstrate that the aircraft can pull more than 12g and not break up.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:55 PM   #132
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the F-15C being a "9 G" fighter doesn t mean that it will break up at 11G.

that means it is officially "safe" until 9G, and due to safety measure, it means it was built to wistand over 10G. what happens beyond those "safe" G is likely to damage the structure of the plane, not to destroy it outright.

I have read somewhere ( i can t find it anymore… ) that a mirage III wistood a full 13 G, and after inspection, was put back into service with little maintenance.
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:25 PM   #133
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Will the aircraft rip its wings off at 11G? No, I think it depends on how long you stay in that margin.

Would you fly that aircraft again without an inspection? I don't think so, that wouldn't be safe.
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:31 PM   #134
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The issue is you can a spike an F15 to 20+g with 3 tanks and stores and nothing happens, not that you can push a clean F15 to 10 or 11g momentarily.

In SATAL today an F15 ate an R77 to the face and carried on like it ain't no thing.
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Old 05-26-2018, 10:39 PM   #135
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not losing payload at high G is more a whole FC3 related issue, it isn t specific to the F-15.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:07 PM   #136
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The issue is you can a spike an F15 to 20+g with 3 tanks and stores and nothing happens, not that you can push a clean F15 to 10 or 11g momentarily.

In SATAL today an F15 ate an R77 to the face and carried on like it ain't no thing.
It seems it's a broader issue that doesn't only affect the F-15. Yesterday i tanked 3 missiles in the F-5 Tiger. At the third missile my left engine flamed out and my stabilizer was ripped in half. And i was still happily flying along defending the guy on my six. Until the 4th missile finished me of.
I actually had similar things happen in any plane i flew. From FC to the full modules. So my conclusion is that it has nothing to do with only the F-15.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:58 PM   #137
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Can you pull 20G with tanks and stores in the F5 without ill affect?

Missile DM /= flight DM.

2 separate issues.

Before the whole missile tanking business came about the F15 was still impervious to G damage even to 20+ Gs and tanks/missiles etc. Do you ever wonder why so many pilots fly entire SATAL matches with 3 tanks? Maybe tactically it doesnt help too much. But the fact that everyone can just pull to their hearts content with stores that would rip off or rip a plane to pieces all day long without consequence is a bit ridiculous.

I see 27G (at least) pulled in the above posted video. High speed aileron rolls are common missile defeating tactics in DCS in the F15. No idea why, but it works. It detracts from the MP experience. Same as with the old 20+G cobra the flanker could pull to defeat missiles.
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Old 05-28-2018, 01:24 PM   #138
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I need to come practice with those guy's. Cause i always black out doing such maneuvers. And when i fight with 3 fuel tanks i can't maneuver and accelerate for shit. Please teach me Senpai.
But i thought this post was about F-15 taking missile hits and then could still fly and survive.
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Old 05-28-2018, 01:27 PM   #139
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You do need the practice bro
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Old 05-28-2018, 08:03 PM   #140
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Anyone losing to a guy flying 3 bags only proves how poor his own flying is.
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