WINWING Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 $799 including shipping? No sir ,please see the introduce on our website. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 Are the ministicks on the throttle and joystick analogue? Yes of course. https://shop.winwing.cn/p/JOYSTICK_en.html Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 Hello Winwing I am really excited and looking forward to your F/A-18 Hotas system. But I have some questions: Preorder starts tomorrow (July 5th) and ends before the launch event (between Aug 15-30). Does that mean the pre order window ends before we get the firsts reviews and videos from the testers? What about the shipping fees to Switzerland? Switzerland is not part of the EU. Normally we will have to pay less fees. Your Hornet Hotas comes with a prestart panel. When comes the takeoff panel? Are there any other panels (UFC, DDIs, Master Arm Switch, HUD switches etc) planned? Hello, 1.The review products will deliver in early august, so the review time is not decide by us, but I think everyone got our products want release first. 2. Tomorrow you can check the freight by UPS system in our website. 3.We have big dream, and we have good tech and attitude, but all decide by how many we can sell in this marketing. Thanks for your support. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladman Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Are there any shipping options other than UPS? Given their track record of additional costs and fees, its impossible to know how much the actual cost will be and could be in the hundreds of dollars. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 $799 including shipping? without shipping fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Is there going to be a video like this in the throttle too? Is be interested to see it internally throttle video coming soon:thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Are the ministicks on the throttle and joystick analogue? the one on throttle is analog. the one on joystick is 4way+push:thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Hello Winwing I am really excited and looking forward to your F/A-18 Hotas system. But I have some questions: Preorder starts tomorrow (July 5th) and ends before the launch event (between Aug 15-30). Does that mean the pre order window ends before we get the firsts reviews and videos from the testers? What about the shipping fees to Switzerland? Switzerland is not part of the EU. Normally we will have to pay less fees. Your Hornet Hotas comes with a prestart panel. When comes the takeoff panel? Are there any other panels (UFC, DDIs, Master Arm Switch, HUD switches etc) planned? 1. they r try to shipout HOTAS for review in early Aug. So the review might around or before Aug 15th. And the launch event just random pickup in 15-30, not sure which day yet. It can be any day in that range. 2. shipping fees you can check out on pre-order page with UPS API at July 5th. 3. UFC , Master Arm , DDI and HUD switch are already in road map. it will be more like cockpit set. Edited July 4, 2019 by toogay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 oh ,sorry. just saw winwing answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ags Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Hi, you mention Takeoff and "Combat Ready" panels "coming soon" (https://winwing.cn/en/JOYSTICK). What will these contain? Any early sketches? VR, i9, Winwing, TM and VKB. 2, 4, ban, ban, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoga Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 ... 3.We have big dream, and we have good tech and attitude, but all decide by how many we can sell in this marketing. Thanks for your support. I support that attitude and a commitment to our niche market. So you might be adding me as a customer later, for I require some more input before parting with such an amount of money for a hobby: - initial reviews, tests & experiences - a functioning and stocked EU/world shop for repair/support, tax & short distance shipping fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I have to admit, this looks promising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hmmm, it looks like the shop is still without a valid security certificate? Websites prove their identity via certificates. Firefox does not trust this site because it uses a certificate that is not valid for shop.winwing.cn. The certificate is only valid for the following names: winwing.cn, http://www.winwing.cn Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) I would recommend getting someone who can speak english to have a quick run-through of your webpage https://www.winwing.cn/en/JOYSTICK - some pretty huge spelling mistakes...doesn't really scream professionalism. Throttle base looks interesting. Heaps of sticks/grips on the market - but next to no decent throttles on their own. Edited July 5, 2019 by VampireNZ Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hmmm, it looks like the shop is still without a valid security certificate? Websites prove their identity via certificates. Firefox does not trust this site because it uses a certificate that is not valid for shop.winwing.cn. The certificate is only valid for the following names: winwing.cn, http://www.winwing.cn Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN They updated the certificate already. The reason why it will show up problem is that they are remove everything to new server. It’s for pre-order event. Sorry it make trouble to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 6 hours to pre-order. Who else is getting excited? :) Any chance you are going to release a list of who the review units are going out to? I am very interested, but could not even consider committing that sort of money without knowing it had been well reviewed. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hmmm, it looks like the shop is still without a valid security certificate? Websites prove their identity via certificates. Firefox does not trust this site because it uses a certificate that is not valid for shop.winwing.cn. The certificate is only valid for the following names: winwing.cn, http://www.winwing.cn Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN Does http://www.winwing.cn pass on to shop.winwing.cn? If so that is even worse than no security certificate as handover from a secure domain an unsecure domain can also pass on cookies and things that usually are restricted to SSL level encryption / trust. So yeah: I am very keen on getting this HOTAS, but if the secure website passes us to an insecure domain then this is a deal breaker. We need clarity on this. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Does http://www.winwing.cn pass on to shop.winwing.cn? If so that is even worse than no security certificate as handover from a secure domain an unsecure domain can also pass on cookies and things that usually are restricted to SSL level encryption / trust. So yeah: I am very keen on getting this HOTAS, but if the secure website passes us to an insecure domain then this is a deal breaker. We need clarity on this. https://shop.winwing.cn/p/JOYSTICK_en.html is working now with no problem showup. check out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 https://shop.winwing.cn/p/JOYSTICK_en.html is working now with no problem showup. check out. Okay: good. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 They updated the certificate already. The reason why it will show up problem is that they are remove everything to new server. It’s for pre-order event. Sorry it make trouble to you. No trouble at all, just making sure you all are aware. :) 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Good to see heaps more info on the shop link, however ... Finger lift for IDLE and Afterburner detents. Hopefully the finger lifts are only required for the Idle detent, the afterburner should be a push through. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobinjaevel Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 They have a video on their Youtube page that shows that it is push through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogay Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Good to see heaps more info on the shop link, however ... Hopefully the finger lifts are only required for the Idle detent, the afterburner should be a push through. They have a video on their Youtube page that shows that it is push through I asked this problem with their CM. His answer is throttle can work with the lock and without the lock both way. It's just a manual lock design. They will explain this special design in throttle video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I asked this problem with their CM. His answer is throttle can work with the lock and without the lock both way. It's just a manual lock design. They will explain this special design in throttle video. Ok I think I understand, looking forward to the video :) Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hi Winwing! Will you sell a Falcon (A-10) grip for the gimbal as well? My latest project, the Multi Function Button Box can be found at Kickstarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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