So c3 fuel is in mission editor...

Anybody try it and does it work?

i tried the following at 2000 m - 1800 m:

590 kph (with C3 and fullt tank)

590 kph (without C3 and full tank)

600 kph (only with C3)

not sure if there has to be somethin set in the cockpit, or is it altitude related?

My guess is like the D9 for mw50 you need a switch to turn on but then again c3 May be different. Either way I think it shows in future we will get the system for the bird.

It is only 80kgs (115ltrs) extra fuel in auxiliary fuel tank (3rd behind cockpit).

It just increase aircraft endurance.

Not sure if it really works.

It is not choice between B4 and C3 fuel.

There is a c3 tick box in the mission editor

There is a c3 tick box in the mission editor

Probably just a teaser.. This A-8 variant modelled by ED does not have C3 fuel, at least that's what I understood.

What are you talking about guys?

The A-8 was introduced with an auxiliary fuel tank behind the pilot seat. It has nothing to do with C3 injection. That's the reason why the ETC was moved 200mm forward.

C3 fuel was the normal fuel for BMW 801 engines.

As saburo already said, it's only for endurance of the aircraft.

Changes introduced in the Fw 190 A-8 also included the C3-injection Erhöhte Notleistung emergency boost system to the fighter variant of the Fw 190 A (a similar system with less power had been fitted to some earlier Jabo variants of the 190 A), raising power to 1,980 PS (1,953 hp, 1,456 kW) for a short time. The Erhöhte Notleistung system operated by spraying additional fuel into the fuel/air mix, cooling it and allowing higher boost pressures to be run, but at the cost of much higher fuel consumption.

So reason i started thread is due to the info above and seeing the option in mission editor

Ok well i see maybe where my confusion has stemmed from as being very familiar with D9 and transitioning to A8. So in Editor option for MW/C3 so when i saw the MW brain went into D9 mode and on top of that C3 as A8 Did have a C3 injection system. Well either way maybe if and when this F8 version appears something will be added.

Oh by the way it seems selecting that option above doesnt do anything as far as adding more fuel, i would assume it be indicated via the Rear tank gauge and it still reads empty.?

This system was used only for small number of early modifications and later C3 injection was eliminated leaving only increased MP.

Thanks

i still don't understand what the option in the mission editor does then...

This is from just now released news letter

"The A-8 version of the Fw 190 entered production in February 1944, and it was powered by a BMW 801 D-2 radial engine. In addition to excellent low- and medium-altitude performance, the engine was also very rugged. Along with the F-8 version, it also had thicker armor around the engine. The engine also received the C3 injection system that provided an emergency boost of 1,980 PS in short durations."

So when things like this appear in description but @YoYo what you write above that only a few ever used that system, Leads to confusion and not really understanding if it will have it or not? Maybe ive had to many bad jumps and blown up to much. But question is a question i guess

i still don't understand what the option in the mission editor does then...

S!

This system was used only for small number of early modifications and later C3 injection was eliminated leaving only increased MP.

This doesnt add up with my sources. According to my sources boost system Erhöhte Notleistung became standard since July 1944 meaning planes leaving the factory after this date had the system installed.

C3 fuel had to be used exclusively for all Fw 190s with the BMW 801 D-2 engine.

The Erhöhte Notleistung later became directly integrated into the Kommandogerät of the BMW 801 TH and TS engines allowing to reach the increased manifold pressure by simply advancing the throttle forward.

For A-8 the boost system allowed to increase the mainfold pressure up to 1,58/1,65 ATA.

The 1,58 being for first stage of the compressor and 1,65 for the second.

Time limit for using this system was 10minutes.

For 1,42 ATA there was no time limit since the engine undergone modifications to whistand the higher pressures thus making the lower no problem.

Erhöhte Notleistung always had to use the extra fuel tank behind pilot with C3 fuel.

I personnaly believe Yo-Yo here isnt correct and the boost system was no thing of few planes and should be implemented.

I personnaly believe Yo-Yo here isnt correct and the boost system was no thing of few planes and should be implemented.

S!

Focke Wulf Jagdflugzeug; Peter Rodeike

Focke-Wulf Fw 190 vol.1 - 3, Kagero; Krysztof Janowitz

Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A, Modelpress; Bílý, Šipka, Šíla, Rajlich, Pátek

Focke-Wulf Fw 190 Described, part Iⅈ Geoffrey Pentland, Antony Shennan

Fw 190 D & Ta 152; Tomáš Poruba, Aleš Janda

Schwierige Aufbaukur, Flugzeug Classic 12/2004

Revi 66/2007

Originální manuál Fw 190 A-5/6 k prosinci 1943

Originální německé dobové výkonostní testy

Originální americké srovnávací testy s F4U, F6F a P47

Originální britský test Fw 190 A-3 Armina Fabera

Originální americký test Fw 190 D

Most of it in czech. Do the digging yourself.

Nope, it's you who has to show the sources, it's not me claiming something has to be any other way. Not to mention I wouldn't read Czech at all.

S!

feeding engine with better fuel with no change in ATA or RPM wont make any difrence in top speed or climb

This doesnt add up with my sources. According to my sources boost system Erhöhte Notleistung became standard since July 1944 meaning planes leaving the factory after this date had the system installed.

C3 fuel had to be used exclusively for all Fw 190s with the BMW 801 D-2 engine.

 

The Erhöhte Notleistung later became directly integrated into the Kommandogerät of the BMW 801 TH and TS engines allowing to reach the increased manifold pressure by simply advancing the throttle forward.

 

For A-8 the boost system allowed to increase the mainfold pressure up to 1,58/1,65 ATA.

The 1,58 being for first stage of the compressor and 1,65 for the second.

Time limit for using this system was 10minutes.

For 1,42 ATA there was no time limit since the engine undergone modifications to whistand the higher pressures thus making the lower no problem.

 

Erhöhte Notleistung always had to use the extra fuel tank behind pilot with C3 fuel.

we alredy got discusion about it c3 injection allowed 1.65 at 1st speed low alt but 2nd gear was limited to 1.42

later c3 injection got kick out and engine was allowed to run 1.58 at 1st and 1.65 at 2nd probably was feeded with C3 fuel, and earlier versions with c3 injection were run on b4

at least this is how i think about it

Marduk I think you are mistaking the Erhöhte Notleistung of the July '44 A-8 to the special boost the Jabo variants had (extra fuel injection allowing to have 1.65 ata in the first supercharger speed only), like the F-8.

Both were different ways to achieve higher boost, the extra C3 fuel injection was for the Jabos for low altitude only, and the Erhöhte Notleistung worked for both low and mid altitudes but didn't require extra fuel injection, just increased manifold pressure as Yo-Yo said

... and earlier versions with c3 injection were run on b4

at least this is how i think about it

BMW 801D-2 required ALWAYS C3 fuel, never run with B4!

BMW 801D was project, abandoned, for this engine running with B4 fuel, it never materialized.

There is nothing like better fuel for A-8, there is only C3 fuel, end.

BMW 801D-2 required ALWAYS C3 fuel, never run with B4!

 

BMW 801D was project, abandoned, for this engine running with B4 fuel, it never materialized.

 

There is nothing like better fuel for A-8, there is only C3 fuel, end.

ok got it, so they run at "quite hard to combine" fuel