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"Or Richard Bong, with 40 kills? (all P-38?). Or Pappy, with 26 in the Corsair? "

 

I was just saying because folks have huge boners for the Spamcan. And I didn't mean Mustangs of the Pacific, I meant even the Jugs in the Pacific did better than the Mustangs in EU in terms of highest score. If you want to go for just hard numbers then you have to go with Wolfpack, They shot down close to 700 Luftwaffe planes, and not at the end when there was a 5 to 1 numerical advantage over Germans, or when the pilot quality had declined substantially. They shot down more planes than any group of the war when the Luftwaffe was about as good as it was gonna be, mid-late '43 going into '44.

 

George Preddy would have broken Gabby's record, I believe that, and it is unfortunate that Allied recognition really stunk across the board, resulting, predictably, in Allied pilots getting shot down way too often. Of course the top two aces of the war flew P-38's, and yes Boyington of course had 26 official or 29 or so unofficial between the P-40 and the Corsair, you have Foss at 26 in a bloomin' Wildcat, Hanson at 25 in the Corsair, McCambell at 34 in the Hellcat.......I can go on and on about the US greats, this was specifically aimed at the Mustang vs Thunderbolt convo.

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If it handles anything like it did in War Thunder ( Practical Advantages only better DIve speed, armament) , then il probably prefer to continue to use the Stang for A2A and for most part end up using the Jug predominantly as a Strike fighter. IT certainly doesnt lack ordinance carry capacity, ( if thats not putting it lightly)

 

 

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I'm afraid that might be so. I'm certainly going to try my luck with it, though. But the trick is, don't get over anxious. If you dive on that guy and miss him, you MUST avoid the temptation to follow him into that turn that he will most likely make. Just keep going. It's going to be frustrating, I'm sure. Most guys can't fight like that. I find it hard, myself.

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The highest scoring USAAF Fighter Group in the ETO was the 56th, and they never gave up their P-47's.

 

 

The Jug could more than hold its own in a dogfight, like any weapon you just have to know how to use it effectively.

 

 

B'n'Z, no turning fights, get low and slow and you're dead. Simple.

 

 

On the other hand, German ace Gunter Rall had a very unpleasant experience at the hands of the 56th at low level.

 

 

 

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Jug was reportedly a world class fighter above 30K. I know most fights don't take place like that here in the sim world, but from what pilots who flew her say she had a terrific roll rate, was very fast flat out, and could fall on a diving Jerry like a safe. The Hellhawks did some pretty good work against the Luftwaffe in the low/med altitude world as well; I've said it many times before, but they for sure gave better than they got vs late war FW's. I will say, for critical distance, that this is most likely the result of the German pilot problem, and the guys flying here are way more experienced in our "chosen profession" than your average German, or even American, fighter pilot, and as such I doubt the Jug would fare as good here as it did in real life in a low and mid level engagement.


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I will say, for critical distance, that this is most likely the result of the German pilot problem, and the guys flying here are way more experienced in our "chosen profession" than your average German, or even American, fighter pilot, and as such I doubt the Jug would fare as good here as it did in real life in a low and mid level engagement.

 

Great point Robert. I would also add that in our virtual world, there is rarely ever the "fear factor" present that governs a lot of what a pilot does in actual combat and that has a lot to do with how a person does in the virtual world.That, and the absence of any G's to deal with!! :pilotfly:

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The highest scoring USAAF Fighter Group in the ETO was the 56th, and they never gave up their P-47's.

 

 

The Jug could more than hold its own in a dogfight, like any weapon you just have to know how to use it effectively.

 

 

B'n'Z, no turning fights, get low and slow and you're dead. Simple.

 

 

On the other hand, German ace Gunter Rall had a very unpleasant experience at the hands of the 56th at low level.

 

 

 

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BTW, is the P-47 going at cruise already :-) ?

 

Really looking fwd into it... After a hiatus ( as usual ) I'm back... Visited the other temptations, enjoyed some of the aspects, but in the end I'm always reminded of such "basic" stuff as the need for rudder, the natural need to use it, without starring at the turn coordinator, and other subtleties that really make the accuracy of flight reproduction in DCS different, for the better...

 

The P-47s I tried didn't convince me... I'll wait for this one.


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