Dispatch Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Will there be a 4 min alignment option or is 8 min the actual alignment time for this Block 50? Thanks :joystick: ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I also hope ED would provide this option or implemented store heading and inflight alignment ASAP. I used to sit 15 minutes to do rampstart in other sim but time is luxurious for me now. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Normal align time is not more than 4 minutes for the version in DCS (latitude dependent). 8 minutes was the time for older F-16 hardware. With stored heading align this model F-16 aligns to status 10 in not more than 90 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backspace340 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I also hope ED would provide this option or implemented store heading and inflight alignment ASAP. I used to sit 15 minutes to do rampstart in other sim but time is luxurious for me now. Stored heading is already implemented - set the INS switch to the stored heading position and the INS aligns in 90 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Stored heading is already implemented - set the INS switch to the stored heading position and the INS aligns in 90 seconds. Hmm, didn't really work for me when I tried it yesterday. The alignment status got stuck at 64 IIRC. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Stored heading is already implemented - set the INS switch to the stored heading position and the INS aligns in 90 seconds.Since when? Latest update? Last time I tried it didnt work. Gonna try it when I get home. Thanks Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I don't know when but if you stored heading you get the fast status count down to status 10 in exactly 1.5 minutes. It should be less than 1.5 minutes for ~40 latitude but it's distinctly different than status 60 normal align in terms of display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backspace340 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Hmm, didn't really work for me when I tried it yesterday. The alignment status got stuck at 64 IIRC. Since when? Latest update? Last time I tried it didnt work. Gonna try it when I get home. Thanks It's worked since the INS was implemented - wait till everything powers up and the MFDs switch on, then stick the INS knob in the first position (in VR so I can't actually read the label - probably ASH/stored heading), and it'll start counting down. Takes 90 seconds till ALIGN starts flashing / RDY flashes on the DED, then stick it in NAV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 It's worked since the INS was implemented - wait till everything powers up and the MFDs switch on, then stick the INS knob in the first position (in VR so I can't actually read the label - probably ASH/stored heading), and it'll start counting down. Takes 90 seconds till ALIGN starts flashing / RDY flashes on the DED, then stick it in NAV. Thanks, tried again and it is working now (counting down to status 10). Must have messed something up on my previous attempts. :music_whistling: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Yes, confirmed. Last time I tried like few weeks back. Soo glad its working now. Thanks ED, no need for the option then I guess. Thanks @backspace340 Cheers Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Well, we still need an option for mission makers to enable or disable stored heading alignment, like we have with the Tomcat. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispatch Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 :music_whistling: 8 MIN ! gonna fall asleep :( Please consider a 4 min ALIGN ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu70 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Yes, please at least go to 4min. 8min is a tragedy on MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 8min is a tragedy on MP. No, it's not. It's the same duration as with other aircraft (e.g. F-14). Edited January 22, 2020 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 If time is a factor or if Multiplayer, why not have the aircraft start on the runway or in the air? The current alignment implementation in DCS is closer to the RL version of the USAF F-16C block 50 after CCIP with OFP 4.2+ circa 2007 than any other sim. The DCS F-16 is still missing a thing or two, but is evolving nicely. Lets not change it because miss conception, because other erroneous implementations in other sims, for multiplayer or time constrains when we have so many other options available for those instances. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Yes, please at least go to 4min. 8min is a tragedy on MP.Just use stored heading alignment (90 secs)or inflight aligment (never tried this tbh) if you really want to get airborne really fast lol. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu70 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 No, it's not. It's the same duration as with other aircraft (e.g. F-14). Yes, it is, I really dont care how long it takes in other aircrafts lol Just use stored heading alignment (90 secs)or inflight aligment (never tried this tbh) if you really want to get airborne really fast lol. Looks great, any disadvantages from this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispatch Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 OK Then, Let us here it from a RL viper driver, that the block 50 takes 8 min. Thanks ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Looks great, any disadvantages from this? I didnt find any different or disadvantage both at AA or AG role. Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) OK Then, Let us here it from a RL viper driver, that the block 50 takes 8 min. Thanks Just to clarify: - Starting the mission with aircraft running on the ramp is not good enough - Starting on the runway, not good - Starting on the air, not good - Store heading alignment allowing working system in 90 sec ( not realistic unless previously a full alignment was performed but an option in DCS) not good enough - Having an unrealistic gyrocompass time for alignment for a USAF F-16C block 50 circa 2007 still using RLG Part Number 890500-203 and prior to TCTO 1F-16-2489 and TCTO 1F-16-2570, that is the one that will be good enough? Just want to make sure I understand Edited January 23, 2020 by mvsgas spelling To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispatch Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) mvsgas Are you A RL Viper Driver? If this is RL, then it is FINE. was led to believe the EGI systems only 4 min. Edited January 22, 2020 by Dispatch ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) Are you A RL Viper Driver? No If this is RL, then it is FINE. was led to believe the EGI systems only 4 min. The avionics power panel would look different for that versions. Instead of INS it would say EGI and there would be no GPS power switch. Edited January 23, 2020 by mvsgas spelling To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Ah, I thought the DCS F-16 was an EGI variant and was simply currently missing the "EGI" label on the panel. In which case normal alignment I think is 8 minutes or less. I don't know how the time-to-align varies with latitude but I think it's supposed to complete within 8min up to 60 or 70 latitude. I don't know what is the best case (equator?) time-to-align or if it varies significantly airplane to airplane. What fraction of the 8 minutes is typical of our Caucuses 40-45 latitude? I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 It take 4:47 to click fly, re-arm the F-16, start Here is the track for Caucasus, open beta ver 2.5.5.41962 How fast can I start the F-16 .trk It takes 4:25 for the MIG-29S to re-arm, etc. How fast can I start the Mig-29 .trk A 20 second difference, so what is the disadvantage right now on the F-16 in multiplayer in relation to the INS alignment? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delareon Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 i would consider the whole rearming thing as unrealistic and it should be kicked out of the Sim. A task which can take hours reduced to jut a few seconds and then complaining about a few minutes of algnment. You should be able to adjust Loadout upfront and you should be able to refuel but not rearming, then it doesnt make any difference to align a few minutes longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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