FlyNate Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) . Edited December 3, 2014 by FlyNate [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipp Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 New flares? Please tell me why!!!...:helpsmilie: First of all, they were fine. The flare effects WERE one of the nice things about the game, along with the vapor trail vortex effects from the wingtips. The Mi-8 can now drop flares without the weapon racks, and that's wonderful, that should have been fixed long ago, but why change how they look? They were great! But now they look like crap. The color sucks, the smoke sucks, they are too big and bright, and they just plain old look like trash. In no way do they look like real countermeasure flares. The old ones were REALLY close, but now they are nothing more than awful. Would someone PLEASE tell me why this has been changed? And also, why they chose to make them so terrible looking? If there are plans to leave it this way, then could someone please help me change mine back to the old flares? I can't stand them. VERY disappointing ED. :no_sad:..... Pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I'd also like to see a picture or two. I agree that the ones we had looked fine, so I'm curious what they changed. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kripzoo Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yeah some pics please. In my opinion the old flares were quite good looking, but maybe too bright at daytime. Is the flare "ballistics" changed? I mean with the old flares when dropping them at speeds like 800-1000 km/h they loose speed too slow. (they stay within the aircraft too long like they were some slick iron bombs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvi Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Serious uglies Discord 4YA - Project Overlord WW2 Server My DCS Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAFU Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Would be great to have some 1.2.11 vs 1.2.12 and some real life pics comparison? Can only link some real life night flares picuters for starters... http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/media/39705-3/DSC_2670.jpg http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/144189.jpg [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Unsere Facebook-Seite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyNate Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) HERE ARE THE OLD FLARE EFFECTS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/as54h3dec6j4eye/old1.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/c15rh23p3fvmc8q/old2.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/elx92fqph1e3bu5/old3.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/eyjvrnrhtmht9py/old4.jpg?dl=0 HERE ARE THE NEW ONES: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rr3p0je8cg9qnpp/new1.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/iimsfld968h75nn/new2.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/mg5vlc5odccdb3z/new3.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/da7xq02knyt8ryd/new4.jpg?dl=0 Edited December 3, 2014 by FlyNate [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Perhaps they look better with some graphics settings you aren't using? Dunno, maybe HDR or something. The way they look on your pictures I totally agree, the old ones look much better. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 :( DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAFU Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Thanks for the pictures. I agree, the old look better. Lets hope this can be corrected... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Unsere Facebook-Seite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Maybe its to do with EDGE and the new effects will look different in new engine:smilewink: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ramjet Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Maybe it has something to do with the EDGE? I mean they will look good in EDGE, but the new flares are incorporated now, and that`s why the borked look? edit: Sorry Cibit - haven`t seen your post Edited December 3, 2014 by Roger Ramjet as above Excuse my English, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kripzoo Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Ha! They look like the current candle flares except that "star shape lens flare". And that smoke trail needs more life.. :cry: The old ones were way better. C'mon ED's "effects artist" you can do better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empeck Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I disagree here. New smoke is much better. Old one looked like the same sprite copied all over, new one looks like smoke. At least according to the screenshots, I'm on the stable branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadwell Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 the new ones are closer: My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RglsPhoto Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 :D I7-6700K OC 4.9G, 896G SSD, 32G RAM @ 2400MHz, NH-D15 cooling system,TM Hotas Warthog,Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals,TrackIr 5, BOSE M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Darrak Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Naah, I like the new flares, looking better, different for every each flare. But the star-like glaring seems a bit overdone. Cameras often have problems with too high contrasts but the Mk 2 eyeball can handle high contrasts way better which is why it looks too artificial. But on the other hand the further you move away the more should the star shine over the "round" glare effect. It's like looking at a welding torch. The closer you get, the more you're blinded. The further you are away, the clearer you see the actual welding flame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siipperi Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 These are for edge, how they look couple of weeks/a month is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Darrak Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 €dit: It would be fun to see how cumulating effects are like two flares in close proximity not doubling their blinding/glaring effect but instead having the effect being exponentially increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empeck Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The old ones looked almost exactly like the ones Ive seen in real life. The new ones don't... simple as that. Also, with all due respect, I highly doubt this has something to do with Edge. That's everyones answer to everything these days "wait for Edge." If Edge is the reason, then put it in the Edge version, not this version :megalol:. They took something realistic and trashed it for something stupid looking and ridiculous :dunno:. Please fix, extremely disappointed in this ED. Awful :no_sad: I haven't said anything about EDGE. I'm just looking at the screenshots, and old ones looks like bad particles from an old, dated game. New ones are much better. Note - I'm talking about the smoke only. The flare itself may be a bit overdone though. I like it anyway. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Old one looked like a crap 2d sprite. New ones much better can't wait for more of the new fx changes that 2.0 will bring. Like always don't like it mod it or ask a modder to change it. Could always just copy the old one and paste it back in lol I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Lol at the "anger" over flares. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kripzoo Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) I haven't said anything about EDGE. I'm just looking at the screenshots, and old ones looks like bad particles from an old, dated game. New ones are much better. Note - I'm talking about the smoke only. The flare itself may be a bit overdone though. I like it anyway. ;) Look more closely the new "smoke". The smoke trail is too short and it lacks that curly shape caused by turbulence. Now it looks like the candle flares... Maybe the textrure is better than the old one's but the shape ain't no good. Oh boy i wait what kind of new chemtr.. i mean contrail effect we see when EDGE comes. Hope its better done than this Edited December 3, 2014 by kripzoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Yeah, I guess we just don't get it since the old ones looked pretty nice IMO. It is not the end of the world, of course, just... strange. There are a lot of things in DCSW world that are SO wrong and need fixing, flares weren't on the list I guess. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyromaniac4002 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 the Mk 2 eyeball What is the "Mk. 2 Eyeball?" An eye with LASIK surgery? Old flares were much better and more true to their real-life counterparts. Why mess with them at all? And why would it have anything to do with EDGE? We're not in EDGE so why would they drag this new flare out and put it in the old graphics engine? Doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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