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Old 09-28-2013, 01:05 PM   #11
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@Sobek: This is an old "beaten horse" from way back in IL-2. The plane is modelled with an incorrect "bar" at the bottom of the armored glass that blocks revi view and lead shooting just over the front of the plane.

It's a bit funny to see that it is back, apparently, even though all those years of producing drawings and stuff

Well we hav'nt seen the finished product yet but convinced that we'll have as fierce debate over this here as on the old banana forum more than a decade ago

By jove it feels good to be back mates
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:07 PM   #12
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Let's hope failures don't get repeated..
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:11 PM   #13
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Nice WiP shots of the cockpit...
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:14 PM   #14
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What about the Revi?

The EZ 42 was very rare and the majority were supplied to Messerschmitt for the use on the Me262.

P.S. I hesitate on saying this should it should be irrevlvant but 777 have already stated that there Fw190 will not have a bar!
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:18 PM   #15
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Honestly to me it looks as if it shouldn't be the bar that causes a problem but instead that whacking great long nose.
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:21 PM   #16
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Would you guys mind pointing out what "bar" your on about????

Haven't seen anything resembling a "bar" either in provided photo's, screenshots, or the video around 7:00

If you think there is an issue it might be worth it to clearly explain what the issue is. Instead of saying, "the bar".
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:26 PM   #17
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Here it is from the video at the 7min point :

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Old 09-28-2013, 01:31 PM   #18
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If someone were to prove that it really is there I wouldn't mind, but after years of it been proven incorrect on il2 to find it raising its ugly head again here is just unfathomable!
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:39 PM   #19
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Long story short: "The bar" is there, because it looks like this in the plans.
So it's not plain wrong. But the graphics-engines don't take into account that the angled armored glass acts as a sort of prisma, shifting the line of sight.

So while it's correct looking at the plans, the way it is modelled is only realistic, when the front-screen was removed.

(ignoring the fact that "the bar" on the Dora should be much lower evern without the glass, which the cockpit-photos made more than obvious.)
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:40 PM   #20
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But Krupi, if the 3d model of the cockpit is of accurate dimensions and the players eye height is set correctly and the 'bar' is visible then it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume it was visible in real life, in order to make that bar disappear the bottom of the armoured glass would probably have to sit inside the fuselage, I can see no feature of the aircraft that suggests that is the case.
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