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Old 06-04-2018, 05:27 PM   #11
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Great news! I like silhouette iff environments the most + dynamic. And we are expecting two more cold war era airframes hopefully soon, one for each side, Mig19 and A7. Slowly getting there.
The A7 fits well, I guess. I'll just have to find some balance for all the modules included regarding the available slots.
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Old 06-04-2018, 06:36 PM   #12
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Add mandatory SRS to the rules and It's gonna be perfect
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Old 06-04-2018, 06:39 PM   #13
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Add mandatory SRS to the rules and It's gonna be perfect
Can't force anyone into anything. Besides most players prefer srs anyways.
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Old 06-04-2018, 09:42 PM   #14
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:07 AM   #15
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Thank you for bringing MIG-21 and F-5 back to life in the Caucasus in Open Beta!
my flight group thanks you!

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Old 06-05-2018, 10:29 AM   #16
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Excellent, I love servers that are prepared to go with restricted historical planesets, rather than just trying to have all of them in . .


I shall be patronising this server.
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You're welcome, boys. See you in the skies

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Old 06-05-2018, 11:56 AM   #18
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Excellent, I love servers that are prepared to go with restricted historical planesets, rather than just trying to have all of them in . .


I shall be patronising this server.
All of the aircraft in DCS were in service before 1991, sooo yeah... this is more of a 47-70 (if you remove the Su-25 and A-10A)

You can call it Vietnam War , because it ain't the real cold one for sure. Don't see why realistic payloads and aircraft for those years can't be made, but this is up to the server owner

Don't get me wrong I did like the server (before trees killing my fps became a thing) and I still like the F-5 vs MiG-21 setup, but I wouldn't go around calling it cold war (yes, I know it has always been called like that). Cheers will definitely be playin' on it again when I upgrade my GPU.
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Old 06-05-2018, 01:33 PM   #19
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All of the aircraft in DCS were in service before 1991, sooo yeah... this is more of a 47-70 (if you remove the Su-25 and A-10A)

You can call it Vietnam War , because it ain't the real cold one for sure. Don't see why realistic payloads and aircraft for those years can't be made, but this is up to the server owner

Don't get me wrong I did like the server (before trees killing my fps became a thing) and I still like the F-5 vs MiG-21 setup, but I wouldn't go around calling it cold war (yes, I know it has always been called like that). Cheers will definitely be playin' on it again when I upgrade my GPU.
You're totally right, I'm aware of that. That's why I wrote this in the main post:

"In this dynamic campaign the focus will be mainly on the MiG-21 and the F-5 and other modules that I see suitable for the scenario I have. That being said jet planes like the Su-27, Su-33, F-15, MiG-29, M-2000, F-18 and F-14 will be excluded to simply give third generation fighters/interceptors or planes of an inferior generation the chance of dogfighting rather than having BVR aerial battles most of the time."

So basically all servers are Cold War kinda thing. Which means if I'd call it "Cold War 1947 - 1991" I wont be deviating all that much from the reality of it
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Old 06-05-2018, 02:12 PM   #20
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As much as I'd love to do that for all the Harrier pilots out there but unfortunately the version of the Harrier we have is of the late 90's.
Uh...

"First flight of a modified AV-8B in night attack from was on June 26th, 1987. Deliveries to the USMC began in September of 1989 to VMA-214 at Yuma."

"Marine Attack Squadron 214 became the first squadron to introduce the Night Attack capability into the Unit Deployment Program in October 1991, by deploying 20 Night Attack Harriers to Iwakuni, Japan, for seven months
Follow-up units based out of Yuma received their Night Attack forms by the end of 1992."

Limit the weapons (mainly JDAMS/TGP which are from the 90s) and it should fit in just fine. (although in very limited numbers given only VMA-214 had them before 1992.)

The "S" upgraded Viggens you have on the server are from at the earliest 1993. The AJ's specific "S" variant upgrade entered service in 1996 IIRC.

Even the Ka-50 entered service in 1995. I'm from around then, and I wasn't even born when the Berlin Wall fell. Don't just set an arbitrary date cutoff/other limit for one aircraft then ignore it for others, same with the Su-25T, you can just limit the ELINT/MPU gear and boom, no SEAD. Although the T variant never even entered service.

TLDR pick what fits, but don't cite the dates as the reason when it clearly isn't. I get that "cold war" type missions can be real delicate things but 1947-1991 is at best, a little misleading with choices like that IMO.



Introduction dates or selections based on balance, don't do both, that's how we ended up with War Thunder.


This may come off as "ranty", but I am legitimately trying to offer some constructive criticism.


The concept looks great though, and I look forward to seeing how it develops in the future. Is Blue-Flag style gameplay rather than the 104th the end goal of your project? As it seems similar in scope.
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