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Old 12-03-2016, 09:50 AM   #1
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Default TM Cougar Owners: Firmware, older versions, please help :)

Greetings everyone,

I recently equipped my HOTAS Cougar stick with Hall effect sensors, which work very well, but I've noticed that when I test the stick with Foxy Windows Analyzer, the output of the two axes is still a series of small but uneven 'jumps', rather than passing smoothly through the range of output values--the same thing it did when it had potentiometers. The new sensors themselves are completely smooth and linear when tested with a voltmeter, but the Cougar's output is 'micro-jumpy'.

I have the latest (I think) firmware, Version 3.06, as displayed in the Cougar Control Panel. I wonder if this is causing the problem. My Cougar is over 10 years old and may not work well with the latest firmware, causing problems with the internal circuitry (linearity of the A/D converter).

Does anyone have the original firmware (Version 1.0), or close to it? I'd love to try it out to see if it helps. I'd much appreciate it if someone could post a link to it or email it to me.

Thanks so much!
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Old 12-04-2016, 12:39 AM   #2
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Hi AD,

Have you tried calibrating the stick with CCP?? also did you reflash the stick when you put in the new sensors??
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Old 12-05-2016, 03:16 AM   #3
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Hi AD,

Have you tried calibrating the stick with CCP?? also did you reflash the stick when you put in the new sensors??
Stick is properly calibrated. That's not the problem, it's the 'micro-jumps' that appear to have been dithered to smooth things out a bit. It may just be the design of the Cougar's circuit board; it did it with pots, and still does it with Hall effect sensors. That's why I wonder if it's either the firmware, or the choice of physical microcontroller for the board and it's own limitations.

Did not reflash, already had 3.06 installed. That's why I'm looking for version 1.0 or similar so I can try out older firmware to see if it works better with my old stick (it's about 10 years old).

It's not a big deal, but I'd like to try and 'iron it out' if possible.

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Old 12-05-2016, 03:55 AM   #4
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The Cougar has been at 3.06 for over a decade. I think the last firmware update was in 2003 or 2004. I've never had any issues with it in all that time. I doubt it's the issue. If you want to try anyway, Cougar World is probably your only hope.
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The Cougar has been at 3.06 for over a decade. I think the last firmware update was in 2003 or 2004. I've never had any issues with it in all that time. I doubt it's the issue. If you want to try anyway, Cougar World is probably your only hope.
Wow, the firmware's that old eh? Well, my best guess it that the 'micro-jumps' are a limitation of the hardware itself... I have a spare BU0836A kicking around (USB controller interface doohickey) which is very nice, I could just use that for the axes and leave the rest of the Cougar hardware intact for the stick & throttle buttons & switches
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