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Old 06-29-2018, 12:26 PM   #41
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Once the C-130 comes to a stop you should see some messages indicating that the mission has ended. Press ESC and then end the mission. Then the campaign will continue from there.
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:46 AM   #42
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I appreciate the realism and that it is difficult. I really do.

From a sales perspective and enjoyment for newer DCS folks like myself, this campaign is basically a waste of money. I can't get beyond the first mission and accept I'm not a pro pilot. Ok, gotcha. I'm not of the top 5% of pilots that can complete this. No problem. Still, a bit too hard for us regular folks and I'll keep this campaign in the back pile of impossible to complete most likely.

Guess it's good we have a couple campaigns out there for the ultra realism crowd. Maybe someday I'll get there too!
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:07 AM   #43
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that looks like a good read but is it available in a downloadable pdf somewhere?

So far the best I can do against the 3 F-5s in the first BFM practice mission is get to keep myself alive fighting till the vul time has elapsed

or, I get them to break the hard deck resulting in a win for me.
I recommend the BFM sections of the 800 and 1200 series here https://www.cnatra.navy.mil/pubs-pat-pubs.asp The T-45 is similar in performance to the F-5. T-2 stuff is pretty old and will have difference due to the performance but concepts should be almost unchanged.
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:32 AM   #44
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I appreciate the realism and that it is difficult. I really do.

From a sales perspective and enjoyment for newer DCS folks like myself, this campaign is basically a waste of money. I can't get beyond the first mission and accept I'm not a pro pilot. Ok, gotcha. I'm not of the top 5% of pilots that can complete this. No problem. Still, a bit too hard for us regular folks and I'll keep this campaign in the back pile of impossible to complete most likely.

Guess it's good we have a couple campaigns out there for the ultra realism crowd. Maybe someday I'll get there too!
If you browse in the campaign folder you can notice there are practice mission where you can spawn directly on India against the aircraft that you want.
It's not easy , AI is very aware of your position , more than humans , so its good training for MP battles.
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:38 PM   #45
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I appreciate the realism and that it is difficult. I really do.

From a sales perspective and enjoyment for newer DCS folks like myself, this campaign is basically a waste of money. I can't get beyond the first mission and accept I'm not a pro pilot. Ok, gotcha. I'm not of the top 5% of pilots that can complete this. No problem. Still, a bit too hard for us regular folks and I'll keep this campaign in the back pile of impossible to complete most likely.

Guess it's good we have a couple campaigns out there for the ultra realism crowd. Maybe someday I'll get there too!
Maybe you didn't notice but the campaign will progress to the next mission even if you aren't successful in each engagement (just like in real life).

So it is possible to play the entire campaign and not win any engagements!

You actually might find some success against some of the other aircraft.

Sydy and MrPilot have some good videos. Watching them might help teach you some techniques.

With practice you will learn what works best for you.

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Old 07-20-2018, 07:24 AM   #46
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I agree that the campaign, although fantastic (see Sydy's videos) is extremely difficult for me. I had to abandon it in the first mission. For sure the problem is that I need more training in ACM.

https://www.87th.org/sites/default/f...Vol%205%20.pdf
http://falcon.blu3wolf.com/Docs/Basi...-16C-RoKAF.pdf


Chapter 4.

Nothing more... nothing less...

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Old 01-23-2019, 12:09 PM   #47
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Necropost here. Revisiting this campaign now that I have some time. Where are these practice missions located these days, within the folder structure?
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Same location as the campaign files. You need to open them using the mission editor.

Typically:
<drive letter>:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Mods\campaigns\F-5E BFM
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Old 01-23-2019, 05:43 PM   #49
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Same location as the campaign files. You need to open them using the mission editor.

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<drive letter>:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Mods\campaigns\F-5E BFM
Found them. Thanks!

So far those F-5's are pure insanity to fight against...how can they retain energy so well and pull so many G's without bleeding E like I do?

"Is it possible to learn this power?"

Anyway...3 for 3 on Practice mode. I can reliably force them into the Hard Deck for a maneuver kill, at least. Too bad I can't get a good enough view on them to aim in time before they zoom by. Visually, the F-5 is microscopic and I would be terrified to face off against one WVR because of this.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:11 AM   #50
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Honestly the main thing this campaign showcases right now is how badly DCS is in need of an AI overhaul Which is such a shame because it's a well made and immersive campaign setup with great voice acting and I'd love to actually enjoy flying it.

However 1v1s in the F-5 demonstrate pretty much everything that's wrong with the current state of AI. The induced drag for having full fuel and the recording pod on my jet, contrasted with the absolute lack of even ballpark drag modeling, the absence of stalling behaviour and the lack of altitude performance degradation on the opposing jets means you're always at a huge energy disadvantage.

I don't know if they changed anything to the AI but in no way is their behaviour in my training sessions even close to comparable to what I see in Sydy's video unless I lobotomize their skill setting.

The only way of beating them for me is through high aspect snapshots or to wait for them to inevitably fly into the hard deck. Which is hardly reliable, or satisfying.


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Visually, the F-5 is microscopic and I would be terrified to face off against one WVR because of this.
Recently watched an interview with an F-14 and F-5 aggressor pilot, he asserted that the small size was it's main quality in DACT. "You see the F-5, you beat the F-5. You don't see the F-5, it's gonna get you."
Works great against other players, not at all against AI unfortunately :/

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