Persian Tomcat status?

Have not followed any development since the F-14B release, there has been any new or update on the F-14A for Iran? What's the plan for it?

The F-14A Heatblur is producing is not specifically targeted to replicate the Iranian Cat, as far as I know.

There has been no information regarding release window for the Alpha.

The F-14A Heatblur is producing is not specifically targeted to replicate the Iranian Cat, as far as I know.

 

There has been no information regarding release window for the Alpha.

So the plan is to launch a regular A Tomcat and paint it in Iranian colors?

So the plan is to launch a regular A Tomcat and paint it in Iranian colors?

Pretty much.

I hope they also add the AIM-9H and AIM-7E-2/4 to better represent the F-14A in its debut 1974.

AFAIK we will get a 90s A that will only differ in the engines, the RWR and some smaller things from the B. It will also have LANTIRN capability IIRC.

Thanks for the info.

No, at least for what I understood there will be the USN A version '90-ish and then the A Iranian version that I suppose it will be very similar to a '70ish USN Tomcat.

Maybe I misunderstood Heatblur programs, some sort of clarification by them would be appreciated.

IIRC Cobra mentioned to cut down some features to better represent the persian Tomcat whilst avoiding big changes in the -A code base.

For example, making unavailable the TCS or limiting the store choices.

I hope if they do the Iranian Cat, it actually has the external details of a -90-GR. If it's not available US side, the .lua can probably be modified to allow it.

IIRC Cobra mentioned to cut down some features to better represent the persian Tomcat whilst avoiding big changes in the -A code base.

 

For example, making unavailable the TCS or limiting the store choices.

fair enough!

The problem is that we have little info about the Iranian Cats. I mean: stock, yes. but modifications: no. Unless we do, I doubt we will be able to create a dedicated Iranian F14A.

But maybe we can do some early stock delivery version of it or so, we will need to see yet about that. We'll finish the A as is first and then most likely take it from there.

The problem is that we have little info about the Iranian Cats. I mean stock, yes. but modifications: no. Unless we do, I doubt we will be able to create a dedicated Iranian F14A.

 

But maybe we can do some early stock delivery version of it or so, we will need to see yet about that. We'll finish the A as is first and then most likely take it from there.

The Iranian F-14A-GR in his main life fight as stock F-14A.

All main air battles, all victories and falls against the Iraqi airforce were flying as the stock versions. Was not upgraded.

So no need to create any later "degradation" of Iranian Tomcat when it has dead AWG9 radars, dead batteries for phoenixes = no use Aim-54, any cannibalized parts, and imported Russian avionics.

The great Iranian Tomcat from the 80s was clear US Tomcat with few exceptions determined for export. A bit downgraded ECM, ECCM (on Aim-54A) - a bit lower frequency of microprocessor, missing fuel probe (later was again introduced), had better engines: TF30-P-414A, IFF had component only for IFF Russian made aircrafts, not US. And Iranian "asia minor" skin. That's all. :)

it's not the all you said.

the awg-9 frequency and microprocessor is the same as USN. ECM is a bit downgraded. there is a airfield ILS system instead of ACLS. the VHF/UHF panel is a bit different. there is no video recorder for hud ( GUN camera ). datalink was there but IRIAF never had a chance to make them operational at least until 1990. fuel probe was there from the first. yes they had TF30-P-414A engines, there was no TCS and also there was no target designator switch on the pilot left side wall so there was no PAL radar mode and VSL could only selected by RIO.

there is no need to do a 2019 Persian tomcat, only the war time ( 1980-1988 ) tomcat would be enough to simulate the Persian cat. -= IRIAF =- team can help heatblur to gather useful information about a 1988 Persian cat if they want to.

it's not the all you said.

the awg-9 frequency and microprocessor is the same as USN. ECM is a bit downgraded. there is a airfield ILS system instead of ACLS. the VHF/UHF panel is a bit different. there is no video recorder for hud ( GUN camera ). datalink was there but IRIAF never had a chance to make them operational at least until 1990. fuel probe was there from the first. yes they had TF30-P-414A engines. no TCS.

there is no need to do a 2019 Persian tomcat, only the war time ( 1980-1988 ) tomcat would be enough to simulate the Persian cat. -= IRIAF =- team can help heatblur to gather useful information about a 1988 Persian cat if they want to.

I seem to remember reading or hearing that Persian Cats had a programmed limitation within the AWG-9 that sightly degraded it's ability to engage multiple targets. Do you know if this is true?

I could be wrong. Many of the women I've dated would certainly attest to that.

I seem to remember reading or hearing that Persian Cats had a programmed limitation within the AWG-9 that sightly degraded it's ability to engage multiple targets. Do you know if this is true?

 

I could be wrong. Many of the women I've dated would certainly attest to that.

that is not true. also there is a problem with the current heatblur F-14B, because during the war the Persian F-14A destroyed 3 MIG-23 with one AIM-54! at a distance of 25NM! I'm not sure at what distance they find the targets but they could easily detect 3 targets flying close formation. while in DCS it is impossible to track 3 targets flying close formation as the radar shows them as a single target even in very close range!

The three MiG-23s were flying in a sub-100' formation, close enough that the Phoenix spall's 100' kill radius and the resultant debris from the first aircraft were able to damage the following pair.

The F-14 shot at the target; formated at such close proximity, the AWG-9 wouldn't be able to discern individual targets based on the cell resolution of the radar. They didn't know they'd killed three Floggers until the formation was falling in different directions with three separate smoke trails.

Thats correct. The Iranian pilot that did it was in this lecture. He said he thought he was shooting at one aircraft. It was only when they found bits of 2 others as well, he realized how awesome he was. :D

Its quite interesting the part where he claims to have shot down a Mig 29 with a Hawk missile

I guess it would be impossible to model a blast radius like that in DCS? Which kind of takes some of the fun away from the Phoenix in ACM mode.:D

What about an Iranian language RIO?

Would be cool to have a Farsi speaking Jester, even if us westerners couldn't understand a word of it :)

(we have a good number of Iranian DCS pilots in our community, maybe they could help out)

We thought about it, but it’s time wise outside of our resources for now

As for killing 3 floggers, that’s already possible. someone put it on youtube somewhere

The problem is that we have little info about the Iranian Cats. I mean: stock, yes. but modifications: no. Unless we do, I doubt we will be able to create a dedicated Iranian F14A.

 

But maybe we can do some early stock delivery version of it or so, we will need to see yet about that. We'll finish the A as is first and then most likely take it from there.

Duct tape an ak47 to a pylon and you've got a good start.

Thats correct. The Iranian pilot that did it was in this lecture. He said he thought he was shooting at one aircraft. It was only when they found bits of 2 others as well, he realized how awesome he was. :D

 

 

Its quite interesting the part where he claims to have shot down a Mig 29 with a Hawk missile

 

 

I guess it would be impossible to model a blast radius like that in DCS? Which kind of takes some of the fun away from the Phoenix in ACM mode.:D

interesting because his RIO ( Mohammad Masboq ) said that at first they saw a single target, but after closing for a few miles they discovered that there is actually three targets flying close formation and the WCS automatically prioritized the targets and RIO decided to fire at WCS target number 2 which was flying at the center of formation with the confirmation of the pilot ( Assadollah Adeli ) and they fired, and after the missile TTI reached to zero all three targets were disappeared from TID and they couldn't find any fire or splash in they sky and they first though that they had destroyed one of them and the others ran away. but after search and rescue team reached the crash site, they found the debris of three MIG-23 so they confirmed that at the day of 7 January 1982 an IRIAF F-14A TOMCAT with the pilot Lt. Assadollah Adeli and RIO Lt. Mohammad Masboq had destroyed 3 Iraqi Air Force MIG-23's with a single AIM-54 missile over the Kharq island.

We thought about it, but it’s time wise outside of our resources for now

 

As for killing 3 floggers, that’s already possible. someone put it on youtube somewhere

Is that right? I didnt think the DCS blast modelling would be that accurate.

Is that right? I didnt think the DCS blast modelling would be that accurate.

it is possible. I have tried it for a few times and it works.

Are they planning to add "old" weapons like AIM-7E or J and P Sidewinders? for better simulate the Persian cats?