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DCS: F-86F Official EN Flight Manual


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  • 6 months later...

The numbering and lettering references on manual page 178 is about 80% wrong. For starters Normal and Alternate reservoirs are switched.

 

I edited out my corrected page because:

  • a) Original was even more erroneous than I noticed. Reference 8 for example is not identical both sides. I could swallow left side not having double bottles until I noticed both are referenced "8" when they actually are different.
  • b) I want to make my correction 100 % consistent in only using naming/spelling from the original "T.O. 1F-86F-1" document.

Edit edit: The F-86F-35 version actually does have a single bottle both sides (as opposed earlier 'block no') but they are still not the same or correctly referenced.

Updated newfound errors: alternate return

 

I'll just leave the (updated) errors and the "T.O. 1F-86F-1" document. Errors:

 

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Multiple F-86 docs uploaded by drPhibes 5 years ago.

 

F-86F Flt Manual + perf data.pdf (pdf 46)

 

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The corrected Figure 5.8 page 178 (see previous post #128). Been ready for a year but I lost interest ... Made a new page 178 (complete with drop shadows) and replaced page 178 in the DCS PDF manual. But I'm not allowed to upload a new PDF I think and even if I were, there are multiple more pages that are also wrong, it's to much.

 

Anyway, here's a max resolution 8126x10632 bitmap (well, it would be, except imgur compressed & reduced size (7MB -> 2MB) on upload) of my corrected Fig 5.8 page 178 PDF. I really enjoyed digging into the F-86F blueprints and made every effort making sure this is correct for our version F-86F-35.

Note, names are all copied from the original manual, skipping the made up names in the DCS manual.

 

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I wanted to be more ambitious and improve the text blurb which is unclear (before losing interest). I'll say something about that now. DCS manual says, page 179:

Each of the booster systems is capable of completely relieving the loads on the

control stick which arise when control surfaces (ailerons, stabilizers, elevators)

change their deflection.

This doesn't make clear that the stick forces are completely 100% artificial with zero zilch aerodynamic force stick feedback. The F-86F stick resembles more than anything else a spring loaded joystick working exactly as our desktop joysticks. One difference, the F-86F trim moves the spring loaded center position of the "joystick". The sticks position directly control hydraulic actuators, which, again, are completely disconnected from the stick. Rudders are conventionally connected with wires (so from the rudder one would feel aerodynamic forces).

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The original manuals are really good, read them before the DCS manuals. Find here. They would be, one would expect, written for real, not for a game, and also, counting 1949-1994 service, 45 years of pilot correcting feedbacks (there's forms for that in the manuals).


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Thanks for sharing this info .. I’m not flying the Sabre at the moment, but will save your diagrams for when I do return to it.

 

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Anybody know where I can get the F-86 Manual? The link seems to be broken? Just reading some of the posts after I posted! BAD ME, Sorry but looks like this forum has been around for a while and not much interest in it. I would rather not waste my money as I have just found this so could someone let me know if it is worth following this simulator? Thank you 🙂


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20 minutes ago, jmburnzy said:

Anybody know where I can get the F-86 Manual?🙂

 


here, you can download a copy of mine:

 

https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26gfkOnyF13tHwN6LfKw

 

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9 hours ago, jmburnzy said:

Anybody know where I can get the F-86 Manual? The link seems to be broken? Just reading some of the posts after I posted! BAD ME, Sorry but looks like this forum has been around for a while and not much interest in it. I would rather not waste my money as I have just found this so could someone let me know if it is worth following this simulator? Thank you 🙂

 

If you own the F-86 module, the manual should be in your installation folder under ...\DCS\Mods\aircraft\F-86\Doc

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1 minute ago, Machalot said:

If you own the F-86 module, the manual should be in your installation folder under ...\DCS\Mods\aircraft\F-86\Doc


from the OP wording, he has not purchased it yet.

 

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6 minutes ago, jmburnzy said:

Actually I have purchased it and thank you so much for the manual for the f-86 🙂Anybody know where I can get the F-86 Manual? The link seems to be broken?


above is a link to the ED manual... do you mean a link to the manual of the real Sabre?

 

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