harf4ng Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Hi, I don't understand the two way to fire guns in this plane. There are two commands, one with just SPACE, the other one with space and a modifier. One fire the trigger full, the other one fire the trigger half. So, what's the difference? Thanks Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazereal Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Hi, I don't understand the two way to fire guns in this plane. There are two commands, one with just SPACE, the other one with space and a modifier. One fire the trigger full, the other one fire the trigger half. So, what's the difference? Thanks First one does not yet fire, just prepares guns for firing. Second command will actually fire guns. It makes more sense with a stick that has two "switches" in the trigger (like TM Warthog). In some WW2-aircraft you might have had machine guns and cannon to be used separately in slightly similar way. Edit: sorry, thought you were asking about F-5.. Can't remember what the first detend on F-86 does. Edited September 8, 2016 by kazereal "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harf4ng Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 Guess then I cannot emulate that with my X55 ;) Don't think it has two switches in the trigger... Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jansgi Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I believe the first stage starts the guncam and second stage fires the guns. Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming AMD Ryzen™ 5 5600X AMD Radeon™ RX 6800 XT G.Skill 32GB (2 x 16GB) Trident Z Neo DDR4 3600MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harf4ng Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Guncam? We can record what we fire at? :) Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) I've never tried the guncam, but i think there was an option in the special options menue for the Sabre to use the guncam. If turned on there will appear a black and white gun cam photo on the bottom right of the screen when the first trigger stage is pressed. That's at least what I've heard, but don't know if it's true. Never tried myself. Edited September 9, 2016 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holbeach Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) You can have it work as QuiGon says, when you fire the gun, or more realistically, just in the track. Enable in F-86 special options. .. Edited September 9, 2016 by Holbeach I7 2600K @ 3.8, CoolerMaster 212X, EVGA GTX 1070 8gb. RAM 16gb Corsair, 1kw PSU. 2 x WD SSD. 1 x Samsung M2 NVMe. 3 x HDD. Saitek X-52. Saitek Pro Flight pedals. CH Flight Sim yoke. TrackIR 5. Win 10 Pro. IIyama 1080p. MSAA x 2, SSAA x 1.5. Settings High. Harrier/Spitfire/Beaufighter/The Channel, fanboy.. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harf4ng Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 But as the guncam is activated by mid pressing the trigger, does it mean that each time the sabre is firing (I mean, the real sabre), a video is made? Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Well.... yes, that's what gun camera was invented for, wasn't it? Although, OK, there were some technical differences on both sides of Iron Curtain. The real F-86's camera did a short video, while the one we have in DCS is just copied from MiG-15 module - i.e. taking a series of still photos, as the Russian gun cameras did back then. Doesn't matter, though, as we can't save them anyway (anyone else misses the fully functional guncam as implemented in the "MiG Alley" :) ?). i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harf4ng Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Oh, we can't save them? How do we look at them then? :) Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Oh, we can't save them? How do we look at them then? :) See my comment above ;) Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harf4ng Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 btw what use is the guncam? To be used as a recon plane? Or for the team to look after what plane we have shot down? Though guess I'll try it. And as I don't have a double detent trigger, I'll put the trigger for both action (guncam AND gun) if it is possible... So just a picture we see, and then disappear, that's that? We really need belsimtek to have this behave like the real one ^^ Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 btw what use is the guncam? To be used as a recon plane? Or for the team to look after what plane we have shot down? Though guess I'll try it. And as I don't have a double detent trigger, I'll put the trigger for both action (guncam AND gun) if it is possible... So just a picture we see, and then disappear, that's that? We really need belsimtek to have this behave like the real one ^^ Not, it has no recon use. It is for debriefing (training purpose and in case of a real war to ID the aircraft as you said). As I've never used the guncam in the Sabre I wonder if it obscures the view like it does in the MiG-21? It obscuresthe pilots view quite a bit which I really dislike. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramstein Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I've never tried the guncam, but i think there was an option in the special options menue for the Sabre to use the guncam. If turned on there will appear a black and white gun cam photo on the bottom right of the screen when the first trigger stage is pressed. That's at least what I've heard, but don't know if it's true. Never tried myself. gun cam windows comes up there, it also sucks a few frame rates..:pilotfly: ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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