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Old 10-15-2018, 07:41 PM   #151
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in the mig-29 pitchdown trim accounts for like 70% [80%, see below] of the total possible deflection physically possible for the slabs -- but it is reserved for trim only. actual pilot input pitchdown deflection is NOT 15 degrees. 15 degrees cited in the manual is maximum deflection, not deflection available to input.
True, but I only ever saw a very slight deflection, especially at higher speed. I guess most of the negative pitch handling for the amount I was pulling was done by wing slats, hence why the horizontal surfaces didn't deflect much.

I guess the limits I was experiencing were mainly caused by the somewhat insensitive FSSB stick which I'm afraid to push too much as it's not mounted, plus the TM grips have a weak point there at the base. When I tried it with the keyboard, I could achieve noticeably higher deflection by somewhat longer presses of the pitch down key.

But, I haven't experienced the same complete lack of negative pitch control as yesterday yet, so have no screenshots to post.
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:49 AM   #152
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Dudikoff,


You need to realize also one thing - SAS - Dampening. If you turn it OFF you will see that pushing stick forward will create full deflection.

Also note that in real plane prolonged neg. G or near 0G flight can result in engine damage as Oil distribution will be cut. (not simulated in DCS )
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:20 PM   #153
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If this is a 'real' FM or based on real characteristics of the jet, it's a rocket and it out turns anything else. Plus yank the stick back and it goes vertical from low speed. Can this jet really do all this ? Very impressive if it can !!

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P.S. Love the new cockpit btw, been waiting forever to see the Mig 29 with a PFM !
Form now on my answer to all the FM thread is ;
Have you heard Wags interview in the Fighter pilot potcast? In it he talks about how close all the models where/are/will be and why they will never be 100% on purpose.
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=222192
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:37 PM   #154
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The link doesn't work, and it would be nice to get a time code.
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:46 PM   #155
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The link doesn't work, and it would be nice to get a time code.
just press play
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:50 PM   #156
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Form now on my answer to all the FM thread is ;
Have you heard Wags interview in the Fighter pilot potcast? In it he talks about how close all the models where/are/will be and why they will never be 100% on purpose.
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=222192
To be expected, of course FMs are classified, we can't have a PC simulation for commercial gain giving away military secrets can we !!

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Old 10-17-2018, 04:59 PM   #157
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This might be a question for Yo-Yo:

Assume the following: Flying with either the Attitude Hold AP or Level Flight AP on.

When pressing (and holding) AP Override, and then making some adjustments to the course, and - once done - letting go of the AP Override button, the nose always dips down quite a bit before it goes back to the AP setting as mentioned above.

On the contrary, when disabling the AP, and then making changes to the course, and then turning the respective AP back on, there is no nose-dip.

Is that expected behavior between these two concepts? I much prefer to use AP Override, but the dipping nose seems odd to me.

Thanks.
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