Improved FLIR Simulation

Hi SiThSpAwN,

I've been flying much more recently (as opposed to doing software stuff) and can confirm that the assertions made in this thread are indeed very much to the point. The first indication I received that there might be a problem was UltraMFCD users saying (more or less a direct average-quote) "Thanks for the update, but I'm not going to be flying until they fix the FLIR problem".

Of course, I take these comments with as much a pinch of salt as you do. It wasn't until I started flying missions again that the extent and severity of the problem became apparent. FLIR systems are now so impaired that night flying is impractical for all but the most experienced users. In my personal experience the difference is, no pun intended, like night and day.

I'm more than happy to provide screenshots/slides to support the overall assertion should that be required.

What my request would be is the following: Perhaps this could be elevated from "Request for improvement" status to "There is a real bug" status? Or some such. This is, of course, my diplomatic tuppence, but I think a point of concern should be that people are avoiding the software as a whole until the problem is resolved.

Best regards,

Baker

I dont think it will show up till after the Merge, They do know the importance of it, but until the graphics engine is all dialed in, I think this will have to wait.

Understood and appreciated.

--Baker

So, any improvements?

Heck, I stopped flying because of the degredation,,, flat out sux for me and I know I'm not alone. Some have better success with personal adjustments. I'm tired of fiddling with stuff myself. Here's hoping for a cure!

Heck, I stopped flying because of the degredation,,, flat out sux for me and I know I'm not alone. Some have better success with personal adjustments. I'm tired of fiddling with stuff myself. Here's hoping for a cure!

I feel you man. It's really frustrating having to glue your eyes onto the monitor just to try to spot anything. As much as I love the A--10, this issue really ruins it for me.

I dont think it will show up till after the Merge, They do know the importance of it, but until the graphics engine is all dialed in, I think this will have to wait.

So, any improvements?

Merge hasn't happened yet.

I very much doubt they would have made much progress on this until the new rendering engine was out of the door and had most of the kinks worked out. However on the other hand, if they are using the same sort of IR method that arma 2 used, then having to retexture everything in the game would also be a good opportunity to create the thermal textures.

I guess I found a workaround, more or less by accident.

 

Applying the workaround:

 

1. Check your visibility range setting: Options -> System -> VISIB RANGE

 

2. Edit the appropriate Lua file in \Config\terrain using Notepad++:

 

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Config\terrain\{WHATEVER}.lua

(1.5 OpenBeta default path)

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Config\terrain\{WHATEVER}.lua

(1.5 Public/Release version default path)

(Should be one of Low.lua, Medium.lua, High.lua, Ultra.lua or Extreme.lua)

 

3. Change the noisemax value to 0.5:

 

--Old Noise 
land_noise =
{
noisemin = 0.0;
[b]noisemax = 0.5;[/b]
noise1front = 1000.0; 
noise1back = 30000.0;
noise1top = 2500.0;
noise1bottom = 2000.0;
noise1PerSquare = 4.0;
noise2PerSquare = 150.0;
}

 

4. Launch DCS and happy hunting. :thumbup:

Will this pass integrity checks?

Will this pass integrity checks?

There was no IC when I first did that. ;)

It would be really cool if you could test that and report back here.

There was no IC when I first did that. ;)

 

It would be really cool if you could test that and report back here.

I won't be at my PC for like another 10 days, so if someone doesn't get to it before I do, I'll be happy to.

Integrity Checks and blurry TGPs are the two things keeping me and many other away from DCS right now.

Should the TGP's FLIR be improved/fixed?

Although there are already multiple posts regarding this topic, I've created this poll simply to see how many people see this as an issue.

For those who haven't already noticed, targets are extremely hard to find in the WHOT/BHOT modes of the TGP because of how they blend in with the terrain.

Below are some single posts that basically summarize the problem:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2610156&postcount=31

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2610649&postcount=38

Below are two threads about this topic:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=156085

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=153308

Many of us aren't expecting ED to rush in, put this up at #1 on their to-do list, and fix it immediately. All we want is acknowledgement that this is a problem and that it will be looked at eventually.

There was no IC when I first did that. ;)

 

It would be really cool if you could test that and report back here.

I checked on two servers, doesn't seem like this is restricted by IC

Guys please look at and vote in the poll i made:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=193884

Really would like this to be fixed by the time the hornet comes out. Without a custom terrain sometimes it is near impossible to find ground targets.

I checked on two servers, doesn't seem like this is restricted by IC

Cool, thanks for testing. :thumbup:

Cool, thanks for testing. :thumbup:

Np. I hope I get a high amount of responses in the poll, hopefully that might prompt ED to at least address this issue

Np. I hope I get a high amount of responses in the poll, hopefully that might prompt ED to at least address this issue

Honestly, I think it's not worth it. This has been an issue pretty much since 1.5 first came out. I don't think they're going to fix it now no matter how loud we yell.

I'm just hoping that it'll finally get resolved when the F/A-18 comes out.

Honestly, I think it's not worth it. This has been an issue pretty much since 1.5 first came out. I don't think they're going to fix it now no matter how loud we yell.

 

I'm just hoping that it'll finally get resolved when the F/A-18 comes out.

Yeah, I thought if at least like 100 people voted yes, they might at least RECOGNIZE the problem, but it seems that most people who view it don't even vote

Edit: only 20/126 people that have viewed the thread actually voted

Cmon guys, 130 views and only 20 votes?

Voted yes, I'd like to see this fixed too.

With the Hornet and the Harrier on the way, it's no longer just the A10-C now. The problem is going to get bigger!.

Hope they find the time to fix this.

They need to fix this as this is an issue of playability. It doesn’t have to be perfect but I should be able to make out a truck’s heat signature out of a cold field, just saying.

No brainer, this is the thing that is a deal breaker for me, many times I have had to resort to labels, as I just cant find the dam target sometimes...

No brainer, this is the thing that is a deal breaker for me, many times I have had to resort to labels, as I just cant find the dam target sometimes...

Now imagine that on the 104th, where there are no labels, and you have to search through an entire town and the surrounding area for targets to kill in order to progress to the next target area :protest::ranting: