Final Pc Build specs help request I promise.

Hi guys, well im still here looking at blooming pc specs after a few months, and i think Ive got the build almost right for DCS, SC and P3d / XP11.

Anyway, may i please ask you guys to look through one more time at the 2 specs ive come up with. The pcs are pretty much identical builds with the only differences being cooling ( Watercooling vs aircooling ) and although both GPUS at 1080 TIs one is watercooled and one is aircooled.

soundcards included purely for use with my jetseat

Basically the choice now is what sort of cooling should i go for.

Both pcs are by the same builder Scan Computers in UK.

WATERCOOLED PC

Cases

Corsair Crystal Series 570X [Red]

£184.98 inc VAT

Custom CPU & GPU Water Cooling

Stage 3 CPU & GPU Watercooling – Custom water cooled loop designed for cooling the CPU and a single GPU. Includes an EK DDC PWM pump, EK CPU block, EK GPU block, 360mm radiator, fittings, tubing and three high quality Corsair ML120 PRO fans.

£411.38 inc VAT

Coolant

Blood Red

£28.96 inc VAT

LED Lighting

Red

£7.49 inc VAT

Motherboards

Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING - Supreme FX audio, Aura Lighting, Intel LAN, WiFi

£194.99 inc VAT

Intel CPUs and Overclocking

Intel Core i7 8700K, Coffee Lake, 6-Core with Hyperthreading, 3.7GHz, 4.7GHz Turbo [Overclocked - CPU professionally overclocked up to 4.8GHz]

£319.79 inc VAT

Memory

32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200MHz [black]

£390.49 inc VAT

Graphics Cards

11GB EVGA GTX 1080 Ti GAMING, 1480MHz GPU, 3584 Cores, 11000MHz GDDR5X - GeForce GTX VR Ready [single card]

£689.99 inc VAT

GeForce Experience

NVIDIA GeForce Experience (requires NVIDIA graphics card)

£0.00 inc VAT

Graphics Card Overclocking

Your choice of graphics card professionally overclocked, Requires Windows to be purchased with the system & adds an additional days testing

£30.00 inc VAT

Power Supply Unit

1000W Corsair HX1000, Full Modular, 80PLUS Platinum, SLI/CrossFire, Single Rail, 83.3A, 135mm Fan, ATX PSU LN80544

£169.99

Storage - Solid State Drives - PCIe (NAND)

1TB Samsung 970 EVO, 3400MB/s Read, 2500MB/s Write, 500K IOPS

£319.99 inc VAT

Storage - Solid State Drives - SATA

1TB Samsung 860 EVO, Read 550MB/s, Write 520MB/s, 98K IOPS

£214.99 inc VAT

Storage - Hard Disk Drives

2 x System Drives - These drives have been hand-picked as systems drives as they have the highest spindle speed and cache so deliver the best performance for a mechanical hard disk drive. [4TB WD Black WD4005FZBX, 7200rpm, 256MB Cache]

£337.96 inc VAT

Optical Drives

Asus Blu-ray Reader/Writer - External

£79.99 inc VAT

Sound Cards

Asus STRIX SOAR

£64.49 inc VAT

£3825.48

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AIRCOOLED PC

Cases

Corsair Crystal Series 570X [Red]

£169.99 inc VAT

Motherboards

ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING

£194.99 inc VAT

Intel CPUs and Overclocking

Intel Core i7 8700K, Coffee Lake, 6-Core with Hyperthreading, 3.7GHz, 4.7GHz Turbo [Overclocked - CPU professionally overclocked up to 4.8GHz]£319.79 inc VAT

CPU Coolers

Corsair Hydro H150i PRO RGB with three ML120 fans

£152.99 inc VAT

Memory

32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200MHz [black]

£390.49 inc VAT

Graphics Card

11GB EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3, 1569MHz GPU, 3584 Cores, 11000MHz GDDR5X - GeForce GTX VR Ready [single card]

£753.98 inc VAT

GeForce Experience

NVIDIA GeForce Experience (requires NVIDIA graphics card)

£0.00 inc VAT

Graphics Card Overclocking

Your choice of graphics card professionally overclocked, Requires Windows to be purchased with the system & adds an additional days testing.

£30.00 inc VAT

Power Supply Unit

1000W Corsair HX1000, Full Modular, 80PLUS Platinum, SLI/CrossFire, Single Rail, 83.3A, 135mm Fan, ATX PSU LN80544

£169.99

Storage - Solid State Drives - PCIe (NAND)

1TB Samsung 970 EVO, 3400MB/s Read, 2500MB/s Write, 500K IOP

£319.99 inc VAT

Storage - Solid State Drives - SATA

1TB Samsung 860 EVO, Read 550MB/s, Write 520MB/s, 98K IOPS

£214.99 inc VAT

Storage - Hard Disk Drives

2 x System Drives - These drives have been hand-picked as systems drives as they have the highest spindle speed and cache so deliver the best performance for a mechanical hard disk drive. [4TB Western Digital Black, 7200rpm, 256MB Cache]

£337.96 inc VAT

Optical Drives

Asus Blu-ray Reader/Writer - External

£79.99 inc VAT

Sound Cards

ASUS STRIX SOAR

£69.49 inc VAT

Aftermarket Fans

120mm Corsair LL120 RGB LED x3

£72.98 inc VAT

LED Lighting

Red

£7.49 inc VAT

£3612.10

Cowboy10uk

I would add another 100 bucks and make the 860 a 2nd 970 EVO and run 2 NVMe's.

According to the reviews I read, I'd ask them if they can use watercool HeatKiller blocks on cpu and gpu, they are superior to EK.

A 1080ti-FE with a HK block will likely hit 2100MHz at 30-32°C ! No need to buy a fancy FTW3 or XYZ-Turbo blingbling.

Just my ideas.

in short: dump the SSD and get a 2nd NVMe, take the DIY Loop kit but I would want Watercool over EK anytime and a FE is all you need for a DIY looped GPU.

If you like silence, make sure you have 2 rads, 2 x 120mm or bigger.

A single 3x120mm will have to fight the heat like mad, more rad makes it easier to cool and more silent. I would max out the rad space...AND USE QUICK CONNECTORS by Koolance !!!!!!!! or you have a BIG mess when you need to take the GPU out etc...

The rig looks awesome, very nice !

NVMe m.2 would be my choice for OS / gaming drives

I would use a standard AIO water cooler eg nzxt kraken, will do the job

32G of 3866 RAM would be a better buy

Zotac 1080TI of some type would be my choice (5 year warranty)

nzxt lately had not-so-nice reviews about their aio's.

pump issues etc.. I'd avoid them till the issues are cleared

I would never buy a tempered glass case no matter how stunning it is. My advice is the new Master case 500 series. They are still great to look at and pretty much the best airflow.

As for the rest of the configuration I would get the second option. The 8700K uses cheap TIM and you would require a delided or a soldered CPU in order to take advantage of all that dissipation capability. The custom waterloop is not worth it IMHO (also is alot more maintenance intensive)

Lot of folks use overclocked 8700K w/o water cooling or delid'ing, I'm guessing. But it *never* hurts to reduce the temperature.

I for one use a simple AIO CPU cooler from EVGA (I think). But I *did* delid it using RockitCool's kit. Like $50 bucks and 45 min of my time. Best thing I did! Lowered my temperature by 10C or more.

what I meant is that the cheap TIM of the CPU will make it impossible to max out the custom waterloop.

what I meant is that the cheap TIM of the CPU will make it impossible to max out the custom waterloop.

Understood. I too thought about what the limiting factor is. What the governing factor is. But I think we can agree that water cooling is generally more efficient than air cooling, but to your point, I don't know if you hit the TIM inefficiency wall before that.

I would consider a different Asus motherboard. ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero or ASUS ROG Maximus X Code or ASUS ROG Maximus X Apex. Overclocking on the Asus Strix is problematic.

I would consider a different Asus motherboard. ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero or ASUS ROG Maximus X Code or ASUS ROG Maximus X Apex. Overclocking on the Asus Strix is problematic.

OC works fine on mine but beware the RAM QVL if you buy fast & fancy.

8th gen IMC does not like 4 modules at borderline specs/speeds. 2 modules are less problematic... Just there is no 16gb module at 3600 and good CL... that's the dilemma.

Going 32gb has a few drawbacks till Samsung has 16gbit dies available

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Hi guys thankyou for all the advice. The order has been placed.

In the end I ended up going for the aircooled system with the H150i liquid cooler. After speaking to Scan, comments on here and other flight sim sites and my general cold feet about full watercooling as well as the requirement for increased mantinance and the extra hassle when it comes to upgrading GPU s at later dates, I think it was the right choice.

I did make a few changes to the spec however, I swapped the Z370 motherboard to a Maximus X Hero, and swapped the 1tb 860 evo for a 2nd 970 evo M2 drive.

I also added another 3 LL120 fans, to replace the stock fans in the case and on the H150i.

Hopefully all will be here in a week or so, and we will see what difference it makes. Thanks again for everyone’s input.

Yikes ... Scan , fingers crossed you have no problems

Their customer support is a bit poor

Yikes ... Scan , fingers crossed you have no problems

 

 

Their customer support is a bit poor

To be fair, been using them for years for my components with no problems although this will be the first time I’ve purchased a system from them. Certainly the dealings I’ve been having with them this time round seem very promising.

I’ll keep everything crossed however

that will be a tremendous upgrade, enjoy!!!

I swapped the Z370 motherboard to a Maximus X Hero

:thumbup:

Did you check memory compatibility?

Yep certainly did. No issues there. :D