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S-75 Dvina (SA-2) Site Layout


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Hey folks! I am asking since I have not gotten around to test this baby out yet.

How is this multi-unit SAM working in DCS?

 

I managed to open the Editor and I noticed that under the "SA-2" name there were ony launcher, LN units, and the "Fan Song" Radar.

 

Now, Wikipedia mentions, a typical site would use the "P-12 Spoon Rest" radar for early warning - and the "P-15 Flat Face" is also mentioned.

 

Can a SA-2 site be set up in DCS without any of theese radars, just using the Fan Song?

And is it possible to include the Spoon Rest and/or Flat Face as well?

Will they actually work togeather and do any difference?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina#Site_layout

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-12_radar

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-15_radar


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Yesterday I was playing around with S-75 and S-125 sites combined with the P-19, which is the only available SR for both. It does seem to work with both types, however the performance of both the S-75 and S-125 was even with the SR rather low. One S-125 site completely ignored a B-52 flying right above it at 12000m.

 

The S-125 will also work without the P-19, something I want to test today with the S-75 too. Detection without a SR is of course pretty bad.

 

A bit OT: Does someone know where a SR would typically be located for a S-125 site? I have found that info for the S-75, but not the S-125.

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A bit OT: Does someone know where a SR would typically be located for a S-125 site? I have found that info for the S-75, but not the S-125.

 

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That's a partial plaque from Finnish Air Defense Museum, that shows the relative distances between different units. According to it, the search radar would be somewhere within 300 meters from the tracking radar.

 

The museum also has a reconstructed Sa-3 site, although the actual distances are a bit compressed due to space requirements. This is how it looks from the air, the search radar is at the bottom of the picture, below those green transport cylinders:

 

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For the SAM SA-2: http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Rus-SAM-Site-Configs-A.html

 

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CIA rendering of fixed revetted SA-2 site circa 1966

 

 

 

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S-75 site a Bulgarian site displaying the classic circular layout

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Yesterday I was playing around with S-75 and S-125 sites combined with the P-19, which is the only available SR for both. It does seem to work with both types, however the performance of both the S-75 and S-125 was even with the SR rather low. One S-125 site completely ignored a B-52 flying right above it at 12000m.

 

The S-125 will also work without the P-19, something I want to test today with the S-75 too. Detection without a SR is of course pretty bad.

 

A bit OT: Does someone know where a SR would typically be located for a S-125 site? I have found that info for the S-75, but not the S-125.

 

SR for S-125 should be a P-15 Flat Face

 

The B-52 flying directly overhead was probably over radar elevation limits

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The site was usually quite easy to spot from the sky.

 

Maybe you should check some reports of the Wild Weasel missions in Vietnam. Sometimes they passed numerous times above a site without knowing it because these guys on the ground were masters of camouflage even when keeping the basic layout.

 

Not everybody tried to style his landscape up with stars which can be seen from space :)

 

EIDT: Here also a layout for some more stuff: http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Rus-SAM-Site-Configs-A.html

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