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Hi everybody,

 

I got my DELL S2716DG (2K, 144 Hz, 1 ms, G-SYNC, TN) last week from Amazon. It was revision A01 (2015).

 

I'm very happy with this monitor (nice and fluid images, uniformity of colours all over the screen, no backlight bleeding...).

 

For games it is just perfect IMHO.

 

However the ghosting is terrible :mad: So scrolling text on desktop apps or webpages is a nightmare :doh:

 

I already tried to set response time to "fast" and "normal", lower the refresh rate (120 Hz, 100 Hz...). No way to get rid of the ghosting.

 

I then got a RMA from DELL and today I have a revision A04. Same story with the ghosting :(

 

I initially read/thought that revision A03 was ghosting free but apparently it is not.

 

Does anyone has the DELL S2716DG and could got rid of that *** ghosting? How? Please state your revision number.

 

I am considering to ask Amazon to exchange the DELL monitor against an ASUS PG278QR because it looks like it is the only alternative with the sames specs (2K, 144 Hz, 1 ms, G-SYNC, TN).

 

Even if the design is more "gamer" while I prefer the classic design of the DELL.

 

What do you think guys?


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No ghosting here. Not sure how to even tell which version I have.

Do you have g-sync enabled?

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Please look behind your monitor: the revision number is the last 2 digits of the serial number. Mine for example is A04.

 

Yes, my G-Sync is enabled.

 

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This Dell has a too aggressive overdrive all revisions. Before I sold it I kept the contrast on the value of 50-56 max. Then the ghosts are noticeably eliminated, the monitor was usable.


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Thanks guys.

 

I've come to the same conclusion as this guy

 

After doing a lot of searching, I have found mixed results. Some people don't seem to have or notice the ghosting at all. Some said they did have it, but after calibration it went away or was less noticeable. Some notice it but just don't care. Others said making the ghosting go away required skewing the colors/settings so far that they made everything else look bad.

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Mine is calibrated, which could explain it. I use a hueyPro

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3 Questions:

 

- Monitor *.inf installed ?

- ULMB instead of Gsync activated by any chance ?

- 388.00 driver ?? that one brakes Gsync and has several more flaws, take 388.10beta if...

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Many thanks mates for helping me.

Mr_sukebe,

 

I've never felt necessary so far to calibrate my monitors. But in this case I will try.

 

I've already tried this given by a guy on Amazon, many guys tried it and were happy but it did not solved the ghosting.

 

Nvidia Control Panel>Adjust desktop color settings:
Brightness-50%
Contrast-50%
Gamma-0.60%
Digital vibrance-70%
Hue-0
CLICK APPLY

DELL Monitor settings:
Brightness-26%
Contrast-75%
Color>Custom Color:
R-97%
G-99%
B-96%

Now I'm going to try a profile from TFT

 

Regarding your hueyPro, are your refering to this? It looks like a commercial product but has been discontinued?

 

BitMaster,

 

- Monitor *.inf installed ?

==> I don't know how to verify that. I installed the latest drivers for the monitor from Dell's website but the drivers are from 2015

 

- ULMB instead of Gsync activated by any chance ?

==> I deactivated Gsync to try but cannot get ULMB activated in the monitor OSD menu, for an unknown reason. But anyway, it would not be convenient to switch back and forth ULMB/G-Sync for desktop usage/gaming.

 

- 388.00 driver ?? that one brakes Gsync and has several more flaws, take 388.10beta if...

==> I saw indeed your report in the 388.00 thread, but no, I have not installed those drivers yet.

The Black Swan,

 

Thanks, I had a look already on that very specialized website

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I managed to turn on ULMB.

 

It does not work above 100 Hz, that's why I could not turn it on before (the monitor was set on 144 Hz)

 

Unfortunately ULMB does not solve the ghosting (also known as "pixel inversion").

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Quote from YouTube comment, from this video above. This is a monitor menu setting I guess?

 

"is your response time set to fastest? set it to normal mode abd tell me if it goes away"

 

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Reduction ghosting:

 

Set the response time – Normal

Refresh rate - 100Hz and less

Keep the contrast below the value of – 56

 

Calibration has absolutely no effect on ghosting, that only solves the color rendering.

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I managed to turn on ULMB.

 

It does not work above 100 Hz, that's why I could not turn it on before (the monitor was set on 144 Hz)

 

Unfortunately ULMB does not solve the ghosting (also known as "pixel inversion").

 

ULMB is not what you want anyway. It wont help reading and scrolling text which should be great with Gsync. You should be able to read and slowly scroll at the same time with Gsync and 144Hz, mine does it, heck, my Mac Retina does it.

 

I'd throw that BS monitor towards Dell and get my money back, dont accept any other than full refund, let it escalate to higher reps if the first few phone convos dont give the result you want and need.

 

Gsync and blurry image = NoGo 100%, that voids the whole idea of Gsync !!!!

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Thanks all!

 

David OC, petsild: I tried all you suggested, no significant result.

 

BitMaster: I will think about it.

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I'm been searching to death a solution on Dell support forum and on the web. No luck. For those who have the ghosting problem, it seems that there is no fix.

 

I think I will return the S2716DG rev A04 to Dell.

 

And regarding the S2716DG rev A01 that I bought initally from Amazon I will ask them to exchange it against an:

 

Asus PG278QR

 

All I hope with this model is that I will have a uniformity of colours all over the screen (as traditionally on TN), no back light bleeding, no dead pixel and no ghosting.

 

If somebody has that monitor I would appreciate feedback.

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In your position, I would defo return it for full refund stating ghosting (being "faulty") as the return reason

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I ended returning the DELL S2716DG and ordering an ASUS PG278QR.

 

Thanks to all.

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Good call and good luck.

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Yes, wish me luck guys :)

 

If the new monitor is right then my hardware upgrade for DCS 2.5 will be over!

 

The choice of an alternative monitor was rather easy because as far as I know :detective: there are only 2 monitors with the following specs: 27" 2K TN 144/165 Hz Gsync

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You'll love it !

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So I received today my ASUS PG278QR.

 

So far, so good :)

 

I got rid of the ghosting when scrolling black text on white background.

 

Actually there is very little but just like on most monitors (I checked in a store) and maybe I pay too much attention to that.

 

But nothing comparable with the Dell S2716DG that I returned.

 

@Bitmaster: I now have the red light too, as a indication of GSync working ;)

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Damn I have been looking at this Monitor and the same in 24" version. This sounds very bad for that kind of money. Anyone know if the 24" version has the same problems?

 

I was very close to buying the otherday, so thank you for saving me from that Simicro.

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You are most welcome mate.

 

Nowadays, at the internet age, it is more and more difficult to try a monitor at a physical store before buying it.

 

That's why consumers rely on consumers for feedback and information.

 

I know the 24" version but did not investigate much on it since I was aiming for a 27".

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