D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 yeah, autostart always works fine, but I tried manual start now (like in Chucks guide), step by step, engine RPM stays at 20%... DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Sokol Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 What about opening the fuel shutoff lever (roof top, red levers) ? Take some time and try to read and understand the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Did that... (red levers) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrustvector Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I never use auto for anything, but, if you got the it one running up ok, the its exact same procedure for the 2nd engine, so I guess you just missed a switch like flipping the crank over to other side or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Please dont use the bugs section for this questions. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Sokol Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Can´t be rotor brake (won´t start anyway). Can you please describe you steps done ? Never had problems with starting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Please dont use the bugs section for this questions. It's "Bug and Problems" for a reason, not "Bugs only". trustvector, I know it's same for the 2nd engine... I didn't write that it's the 2nd engine problem... I did COMPLETE fresh manual start, no engine running, and 1st engine (left) won't go over 20% RPM. DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrustvector Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 ok sorry, mis read, let us know your steps to start, pilot brake on right floor, ceiling brake, apu start switch to left engine and switch to crank, all right side breakers up, extinguisher on both bat switches, ah forgot name switches behind co pilot bottom right up, fuel on all 4 (not in order but ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Can´t be rotor brake (won´t start anyway). Can you please describe you steps done ? Never had problems with starting... yes, here the steps as from Chucks guide dated from 21.12.2016: 1.Select Flight Engineer by pressing “3” and turn on all circuit breakers by clicking handles. 2. Turn off Anti-Ice system breakers if you are flying in a hot day (above 0 deg C). Tip: these breakers are to the right of the two breakers that are OFF by default. 3. Optional - Make sure that all switches are OFF . 4. Set Hydraulic switch to MAIN (UP), Fuel Crossfeed valve ON (UP) and Fuel Bypass OFF (DOWN). 5. Set Fuel Content Selector to “Total” and check fuel quantity . 6. Collective full DOWN, Throttle FULL LEFT (CLOSED), Condition Levers MIDDLE 7. Battery # 1 & 2 – ON (UP). STBY Gen – OFF (DOWN) 8. DC selector knob – BATTERY BUS 9. 36V Instrument Transformer – MAIN (UP) 10. 115V Inverter – MANUAL (UP) 11. Set radio to AM, R-863 (УКР/UHF) and RADIO and desired frequency (tower). 12. Fire Protection Switch – FIRE EXTING. (UP) 13. Service Fuel Pump ON 14. LEFT & RIGHT Fuel Shutoff Valves – ON • Note: Flip red cover switch 15. Pitot Heat – ON/UP (as required) 16. APU Mode Switch – START (UP) 17. Press APU START switch (2-3 sec). Make sure EGT, Air and Oil Pressure are rising within 9 seconds. Wait until APU has stabilized (1 min approx.) 18. Select Left Engine (or downwind engine first) and select “START” (UP) starting mode. 19. Release Rotor Brake (DOWN position) 20. Press “START” button for 2 to 3 seconds to initiate start sequence. 21. Click on left/selected engine red fuel shutoff lever (“Engine Stop”) to push it forward. RPM should begin to rise. 22. Once Engine # 1 reaches a N1 RPM of 60-65 %, wait 1 minute for APU to cool down (optional) and select right engine. There, at step 22. it reaches only 20%, not even close to 60%. (pilot intrument engine RPM) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrustvector Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 ok, having a hard timing reading as on my phone with cracked screen sorry, but I see no mention of the pilots brake, down on the floor? a lot of steps there are necessary really, I'm sure there's a training section on starting the 8 on dcs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Sokol Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Maybe the wrong starting mode (cold start/cranking), switch must be up. Step 18. Edited January 10, 2019 by Beta Sokol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 19. it says "Release Rotor Brake (DOWN position)" DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 step 18 IS up... select “START” (UP) starting mode. DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holton181 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 21. Click on left/selected engine red fuel shutoff lever (“Engine Stop”) to push it forward. RPM should begin to rise. Here. Do you do this step for each engine immediately after the start sequence has started (all green lamps on the engine start panel lit)? Or do you wait a while for the rpm to reach the said 20%? If you wait, the engine won't start. Then you need to crank it a while to remove excessive fuel. You should operate the shutoff lever immediately after the rpm needle start moving. I suggest you read the official manual on this procedure since it goes more in depth (not necessary to perform all system checks), and also describes routines if failing. Helicopters and Viggen DCS 1.5.7 and OpenBeta Win7 Pro 64bit i7-3820 3.60GHz P9X79 Pro 32GB GTX 670 2GB VG278H + a Dell PFT Lynx TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 And these two levers can be put in the forward position both before actually starting the engines, after APU is started, for example Whisper of old OFP & C6 forums, now Kalbuth. Specs : i7 6700K / MSI 1070 / 32G RAM / SSD / Rift S / Virpil MongooseT50 / Virpil T50 CM2 Throttle / MFG Crosswind. All but Viggen, Yak52 & F16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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