Performance of DCS World 2.5

Can you point to the most recent where he said "In less than 2 months from now...". In relation to what FB post?

So you're saying if you run DS you should completely turn MSAA off? Does it just reduce frames or does turning MSAA actually have a negative impact on graphics quality?

Oh, quality is good, as it was in 1.5.x, but you should turn MSAA off if you want to get high fps and no (or reduced) stuters. That's why some of us do it and force FXAA+SMAA via Reshade as a poor-man's alternative instead. The performance on my GTX1070 is butter smooth then, but the drawback is worse image quality with those (shimmering and bluriness).

MSAA x2 already induces stutters, while anything above also murders frames unless you sh..t with money and get a beefy machine as a brute force solution. Not everyone can afford a 4,8GHz+ GHz Intel plus GTX1080Ti, though.

No, it was posted that "we are just weeks away"... Could mean 2 months sure, but they chose to use the word "weeks" not "months" :)

I literally read something a couple of days ago from ED saying they were going to release 2.5 ‘within 2 months’. This was after Wags saying ‘we are just weeks away’. It was a comment by ED on a FB post so you’ll have to hunt it out

You're running a 770, buddy. That's a long ways from top of the line equipment, being five years old. You can run it on low settings with modest framerates. That's about what you should expect with that.

Performance of DCS World 2.5

Oh, quality is good, as it was in 1.5.x, but you should turn MSAA off if you want to get high fps and no (or reduced) stuters. That's why some of us do it and force FXAA+SMAA via Reshade as a poor-man's alternative instead. The performance on my GTX1070 is butter smooth then, but the drawback is worse image quality with those (shimmering and bluriness).

 

MSAA x2 already induces stutters, while anything above also murders frames unless you sh..t with money and get a beefy machine as a brute force solution. Not everyone can afford a 4,8GHz+ GHz Intel plus GTX1080Ti, though.

Roger, I'm in VR so my old SweetFX + ReShade has been rendering useless for me. Luckily I do have a 1080Ti + 4.7GHz processor, so I can squeak by at 4x MSAA - or at least have been in the past.

Curious, is it only 2x MSAA that induces stutter?

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I'm already looking for a new VGA. The GTX 1070 8GB is too expensive for me, but I can pay for the GTX 1060 6GB,

I found some tests on YT, the GTX 1060 6GB looks to be nearly equivalent to GTX 980 4GB.

The new Caucasus can be heavier than Nevada and Normandy, I'll wait for DCS 2.5 to see what is the best choice.

Curious, is it only 2x MSAA that induces stutter?

Nah, it's any setting, starting from this lowest one :D. It depends on map and altitude as well, with Nevada being better and Normandy worse of the two. I fear Caucasus with its abundance of trees will be more like the latter.

In the end I keep using Deferred Shading, because I like it (at some point we probably won't have a choice anyway), but there are no AA methods for it right now, which would yield both excellent quality and smooth performance at the same time. That's a bit of an unfortunate step back from the 1.5.x.

Can you point to the most recent where he said "In less than 2 months from now...". In relation to what FB post?

https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/posts/10159755117270341?comment_id=10159755241320341&reply_comment_id=10159755334620341

I'm already looking for a new VGA. The GTX 1070 8GB is too expensive for me, but I can pay for the GTX 1060 6GB,

 

I found some tests on YT, the GTX 1060 6GB looks to be nearly equivalent to GTX 980 4GB.

 

The new Caucasus can be heavier than Nevada and Normandy, I'll wait for DCS 2.5 to see what is the best choice.

Greetings, I had a look at your computer specs and it looks like you have a really great system--almost. Even though it's not brand spanking new, your i5 4670K is certainly a very good CPU... I'm just wondering what clock speed you're running it at.

Reason why, is that if you look at cpubenchmark.com, the older generations of Intel processors have pretty much the same single-thread performance as the newest ones at a given clock speed, and since DCS World only uses two threads, none of the newer, 'fancy' stuff will help.

So, keep your current system and overclock your CPU to 4.0 GHz or higher, and you're good to go--anything from 4.0 or more is perfect.

So, you have just about an ideal CPU, and have plenty of memory--but as others have stated, your system is really hurting in the graphics card department. That said, I just don't recommend a GTX 1060 6GB card for DCS... You're probably better off with a used GTX 980 Ti, which is almost on-par with a GTX 1070, but only has 6GB of video memory. It's still very good, but stay away from the regular GTX 980. It was pretty good when it was released, but it's not up to the task today.

Flight sims in general are *really* hard on video cards, and for DCS World, what you really want is a GTX 1070. If you're trying to stretch money, don't get a 1060, try to find a used 980 Ti at a decent price. The 1060 just doesn't have the GPU power for DCS. You're still better off with an 8GB card, though.

Rough equivalents:

GTX 980 ~= GTX 1060, but 1060 has 6GB version

GTX 980 Ti ~= GTX 1070, but 1070 has 8GB, is slightly faster

GTX 1080 ~= older Titan cards

GTX 1080 Ti really has no equal! (and costs a small fortune)

So, you really want a 1070 :) It really is the least expensive "great" card for DCS. If you're buying something lesser than that, get it used--like a 980 Ti.

My PC meets the recommended requirements, it's running with high settings...

In DCS 1.5, I have between 30~60 FPS, but in DCS 2.1 I don't reach good FPS rates.

 

 

 

FWIW that GPU of yours would be the focus of an upgrade, if I had your system.

My specs are not too dissimilar to yours, but I have a 980Ti with 6GB. It runs DCS 2.1 both normandy and nevada with good frames everywhere, and almost all settings at the top possible.

Your CPU, SSD and RAM could all remain as they are I would expect.

 

 

Also, you don't need anisotropic filtering at 16x . These sorts of things can be dialed down until they are "acceptable" to your eyes. I find that 99% of the time the "prettiness" of the sim is less important than getting all the tactical information I need.

https://www.facebook.com/eagle.dynamics/posts/10159755117270341?comment_id=10159755241320341&reply_comment_id=10159755334620341

Ah ok so buried in the comments of that post, Wags (I assume) stated:

"Sometime prior to less than two months from now."

Still better than "Two months from now." :thumbup::pilotfly:

I hoped by christmas. :D

I hoped by christmas. :D

Yeah you're not alone on that one bro :santa:

Yeah you're not alone on that one bro :santa:

+1

It was great that Wags spoke clearly on the timetable in his direct letter, but after mentioning this change of plans in a comment on facebook and nowhere else leaves us back where we were before, trying to keep up with who heard what from who when. I hope someone from ED posts an official announcement - almost as much as I hope that comment on facebook was supposed to read "weeks" instead of "months".

So, you really want a 1070 It really is the least expensive "great" card for DCS. If you're buying something lesser than that, get it used--like a 980 Ti.

The GTX 1070 looks great, but in Brazil, it's equivalent to pay US$2000,00 for it. My money don't worth anything. The brazilian currency is devaluated against dollar. Brazil is a burocratic, regulation and taxation madness. Tax over tax. Beyond the currency conversion, I pay one VGA for me, one for the government and the reseller profit. Thats why it's a third world country. I can pay for it, but it's a small fortune thats will be obsolete after 5 years, like the GTX 770. I'll think about it.

pardon for butting in..

but yeah.. I can feel you... pertaining the price of gaming hardware components... ^^

Perhaps for us, we could stay with 1.5.. though without the latest patches.

Whilst we save for the next Hardware if we can...

The GTX 1070 looks great, but in Brazil, it's equivalent to pay US$2000,00 for it. My money don't worth anything. The brazilian currency is devaluated against dollar. Brazil is a burocratic, regulation and taxation madness. Tax over tax. Beyond the currency conversion, I pay one VGA for me, one for the government and the reseller profit. Thats why it's a third world country. I can pay for it, but it's a small fortune thats will be obsolete after 5 years, like the GTX 770. I'll think about it.

Maybe we can buy it for you from our country , then send it marked as gift for you ? Would brazil still take taxes for it ? :book:

The GTX 1070 looks great, but in Brazil, it's equivalent to pay US$2000,00 for it. My money don't worth anything. The brazilian currency is devaluated against dollar. Brazil is a burocratic, regulation and taxation madness. Tax over tax. Beyond the currency conversion, I pay one VGA for me, one for the government and the reseller profit. Thats why it's a third world country. I can pay for it, but it's a small fortune thats will be obsolete after 5 years, like the GTX 770. I'll think about it.

I know some people in USA, but Brazil has huge budget deficit, they are taxing everything they could, including sendings as gifts.

The flight simulators are very expensive hobby and thats it's my problem, I know.

I'm a frustrated pilot like most people here and I had no problem to put some money to entertain myself with these stuffs.

The ED did a great job creating this level of simulation in DCS 2.5 and I want to run this beauty like the screenshots.

Wow, that sucks :/ My sympathies.

I had a friend in Sweden once, complaining about the high cost of local flight gear (stick and throttle units, specifically). It was like $350 or something for an X52. I looked here and was like "I can get you one for $150... Even after shipping and such, it'll be peanuts in comparison. I'll get one and send it to you!"

That's when I learned about VATS in the EU. Now I know why they were $350. Even better, you have to pay it at pickup, so I didn't know until he's standing in line to get his package and there were all these other fees :)

Unfortunately similar costs here in Turkey:

1$=3,86 Turkish lira

1€=4,56 Turkish lira

Set aside purchasing a Graphic card,most of us cannot purchase a new Dcs product when it just released, there is always 1 year latency :(

The GTX 1070 looks great, but in Brazil, it's equivalent to pay US$2000,00 for it. My money don't worth anything. The brazilian currency is devaluated against dollar. Brazil is a burocratic, regulation and taxation madness. Tax over tax. Beyond the currency conversion, I pay one VGA for me, one for the government and the reseller profit. Thats why it's a third world country. I can pay for it, but it's a small fortune thats will be obsolete after 5 years, like the GTX 770. I'll think about it.

Woooow, oh man, that's rough! I feel for you, here in Canada we don't get royally screwed on things like video cards, but we make up for it with other problems :)

I can't believe it's that expensive. Maybe it would be cheaper to go on vacation in the States, buy the desired graphics card at 1/5th of the price, shove it up a choice bodily orifice, and fly back home. Of course, if you get caught in airport security with a poo-covered video card, it's off to the gallows.

If you can, try to get your hands on a used GTX 980 Ti, locally if possible... a regular GTX 980 at the least. It's Brazil, so there must be some guy in a trench coat with dark glasses standing on a downtown street corner willing to sell you one, as long as you don't tell anyone where you got it from :)

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Does anyone else have the issue where your game renders only half the frames set on your FPS cap in graphics.lua? For instance, when I have maxfps set to 60, I only get around 30-38 in game, and at 180, I get 90, etc.

Unfortunately similar costs here in Turkey:

 

1$=3,86 Turkish lira

1€=4,56 Turkish lira

 

Set aside purchasing a Graphic card,most of us cannot purchase a new Dcs product when it just released, there is always 1 year latency :(

wwwway wwwway worse here in Iran

1 USD= 42,000 IRR

But I save some money every month (around 60$) for my expensive hobby

The Titan V was just announced. May be it can handle deferred shading and msaa in VR at SS 1.5