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Old 04-21-2017, 05:43 PM   #31
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I don't usually fly multiplayer, so I can't give much help there, but in terms of single player missions, there should be a few that were included with the aircraft, in addition to the Instant Action missions, I would think. I don't have the Spitfire, so I can't confirm this personally, but most other modules do have missions included.

Looking through the user created missions that have been uploaded to the DCS website, it looks like most of them are for the Nevada map (apparently to mimic the North Africa campaign in WWII, I believe), but there is at least one mission that has been uploaded for the Caucasus map:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.c...files/2380303/

I'm sorry that there aren't more single player missions available, I suspect that this is because it is a relatively new module. However, there appear to be 20 or so missions that have been created and uploaded for the P-51D. As the aircraft are similar, it may be possible to download on of these missions, open up the mission editor, find the plane that is set to Player, and change it from the P-51D to the Spitfire.

The P-51D missions can be found here:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.c..._filter=Filter



There are also 33 multiplayer missions for the P-51D, and it is possible that some of these missions might be playable as a single player mission. Similar to the single player mission, you would need to open up the multiplayer mission in the mission editor and change one (or more) of the planes that are set to Client to be a Spitfire instead of a P-51D.

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.c..._filter=Filter


And of course, after playing around with the mission editor to switch these missions from the P-51D to the Spitfire, this might also help you learn about the mission editor and how it can be used to edit or create new missions. It takes a little bit of practice, but once you get the hang of it, it should not be too difficult.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:32 PM   #32
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Please remember that youtube videos are highly compressed. You will not necessarily see the dot in a youtube video that the player himself did see on the screen while playing.

What kind of monitor are you using? resolution and refresh rate?
What are your game settings.
I find that for the best spotting and target tracking you should run native monitor resolution with;
MSAA x2 or x4 (off, is even better for spotting, but looks too ugly for me)
Anistrophic Filtering x2 or x4
HDR, Depth of Field & Lens effects off.

removing clutter/grass and low trees visibility can help on spotting against ground

as a last resort for spotting the dot, you can try running the game at a resolution lower than your monitor native resolution, i.e. if you have a 2560x1440 monitor, try it at 1920x1080.
It makes it look very ugly, but you might see the one pixel dot now easier as it is scaled up to several pixels on your 2560x1440 screen.

Remember, spotting and target tracking is a skill that you develop over the time. You learn to spot the dot and you learn to anticipate aircraft movement and know where to look for the enemy as you improve your skills.

It might help in the beginning to pratice spotting in single player with labels changed to just red dots (instead of black/gray dots as in BS server).
Edit your labels.lua file for that under C:\Users\[User name]\Saved Games\DCS\Config\View
Thanks a lot. My monitor is 2880p, but, as I said above, I run all games including DCS at 1440p and I tried at 720p earlier to see if it made a difference. I think it helped, but monitor res is not the whole issue.
I run with MSAA at x2, and same for Anistrophic filtering. I always have HDR and DOF switched off, but tend to keep Lens Effects on.
I'm going to do some practice over the weekend and see how that goes. I practice in Instant Action Dogfighting, and try with labels off, but it's a struggle!
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:28 PM   #33
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So It takes a long, long time when playing full-realism online to learn to spot aircraft. My advice is to prioritize your looking in the area of sky behind and above. Think about protecting your ass as your first job. "Hunting" as an aggressor is secondary.



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That's good advice for everyone actually. Regardless of current skill level.
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BTW - If you don't already have it, I recommend you download and install TeamSpeak (or your preference of Voiceware Software).
TS is used on "most" multiplayer servers.
It's much easier than typing, especially whilst flying. That Texting can Kill You !
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I don't usually fly multiplayer, so I can't give much help there, but in terms of single player missions, there should be a few that were included with the aircraft, in addition to the Instant Action missions, I would think. I don't have the Spitfire, so I can't confirm this personally, but most other modules do have missions included.

Looking through the user created missions that have been uploaded to the DCS website, it looks like most of them are for the Nevada map (apparently to mimic the North Africa campaign in WWII, I believe), but there is at least one mission that has been uploaded for the Caucasus map:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.c...files/2380303/

I'm sorry that there aren't more single player missions available, I suspect that this is because it is a relatively new module. However, there appear to be 20 or so missions that have been created and uploaded for the P-51D. As the aircraft are similar, it may be possible to download on of these missions, open up the mission editor, find the plane that is set to Player, and change it from the P-51D to the Spitfire.

The P-51D missions can be found here:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.c..._filter=Filter



There are also 33 multiplayer missions for the P-51D, and it is possible that some of these missions might be playable as a single player mission. Similar to the single player mission, you would need to open up the multiplayer mission in the mission editor and change one (or more) of the planes that are set to Client to be a Spitfire instead of a P-51D.

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.c..._filter=Filter


And of course, after playing around with the mission editor to switch these missions from the P-51D to the Spitfire, this might also help you learn about the mission editor and how it can be used to edit or create new missions. It takes a little bit of practice, but once you get the hang of it, it should not be too difficult.
Thanks Hyperion. That all looks like useful advice. I'll give the Caucasus one a go, as the version 2 ones require mods, and that I think causes an issue on Burning Skies server. I had to mess around uninstalling mods before to get on there, so I'll give them a miss!
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I convert missions to WWII versions all the time. Just change all the aircraft to warbirds and SAMs to AAA. Convert any modern helos to hueys and MI-8's to shoot at for fun. You can kill the the APC's and AAA's with your Spit cannon but you will need the P-51 rockets for the tanks.

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you shouldnt fear multiplayer. you should embrace it more than singleplayer.
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I convert missions to WWII versions all the time. Just change all the aircraft to warbirds and SAMs to AAA. Convert any modern helos to hueys and MI-8's to shoot at for fun. You can kill the the APC's and AAA's with your Spit cannon but you will need the P-51 rockets for the tanks.

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That is a great idea! Just dipped my toes into the Mission Editor, so I'll give that a go.
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I don't 'fear' multiplayer. After all, it's not like I'm really going to die 100 times in a day!
Over the many years I have spent gaming - flight sims, racing sims and RPG mainly - I have avoided multiplayer. This is largely for 2 reasons:
1) you often get total idiots playing which spoil things for everyone else. This is particularly true of racing sims when there is always, and I mean always, some guy who decides that it is fun to crash into every other car on the circuit. Also, the guys who decide in action games to start shooting at his comrades. In my opinion, this made playing MP games online a waste of time.
2) there always seemed to me to be a lack of objective in the MP experience. Sure, it was fun getting up in a plane with a couple of mates and seeking out the enemy planes to shoot down, but, in the end, there seemed very little point in that. Just something to dip into from time to time. Personally, I like the aspect of the SP games that allows you to see a strategic goal, mission objectives with particular targets to achieve, being part of a larger campaign. And, if the mission fails, then try again with a different approach to the same problem.
For me, it is more satisfying beating the AI than humans of very different skill levels. There is a huge caveat attached however, and that is the programming skills of the devs in their AI abilities.
I have not really experienced the MP aspect of DCS, so I can't comment on it specifically, but maybe from what you guys are saying it is very different, and 'the way to go', so after some more practice, I will certainly give it a go!
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Old 04-23-2017, 11:50 PM   #39
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1) you often get total idiots playing which spoil things for everyone else. This is particularly true of racing sims when there is always, and I mean always, some guy who decides that it is fun to crash into every other car on the circuit. Also, the guys who decide in action games to start shooting at his comrades. In my opinion, this made playing MP games online a waste of time.
Gotta say, you almost never (OK very rarely) see this in real flight sims like DCS and Cliffs. On the contrary, you'll often see people offer help before asked, and a lot of "jump on TS and I'll help".

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2) there always seemed to me to be a lack of objective in the MP experience. Sure, it was fun getting up in a plane with a couple of mates and seeking out the enemy planes to shoot down, but, in the end, there seemed very little point in that. Just something to dip into from time to time. Personally, I like the aspect of the SP games that allows you to see a strategic goal, mission objectives with particular targets to achieve, being part of a larger campaign. And, if the mission fails, then try again with a different approach to the same problem.
I hope some of the server guru's setup a Normandy server that has real mission objective that will reset say every two hours, not sure how popular this would be tho? I guess if you really want that type of immersion in MP you might be better joining a group thats organised to do these mission, would be nice if I had the time to join.
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