javelina1 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 My guess is this enables future map expansion without having to do massive renaming efforts later on. indeed, was my thought too. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 My guess is this enables future map expansion without having to do massive renaming efforts later on. Doesn't make much sense to me. If they decide to make a separate paid map that extends west, then they will have a problem naming the new product to distinguish from the map already available ("DCS: Persian Gulf West"? "DCS: Persian Gulf Proper"?). If they make a (free) expansion, then they will still have to say something like: "And now we have added Persian Gulf area to DCS: Persian Gulf map". Renaming would be much more appropriate then as it would signify the change in the product, free or not. Ah well, maybe they just wanted to avoid recent arguments about putting non-combat planes in the Digital Combat Simulator and this time decided to use the broadest name available for the new product :) Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exray Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 This would be the same as calling Nevada "DCS:USA" It's a misleading name. It sounds much more impressive to reviewers and prospective buyers though. i7-4790k @ 4.4GHZ, 32GB G. Skill Ripjaws DDR-2133 RAM, EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3, Crucial M500 SSD, VKB MCG, TWCS Throttle, MFG Crosswind, TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xordus Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 It's just Marketing. The Gulf War was literally named for the Persian Gulf. It's instant name-recognition that is more appealing to a potential customer than a Strait no one has ever heard of. Hopefully this map will be expanded at a later date to include the entire Gulf area. We really need bigger maps in DCS if we want to expand the player-base to include more people from P3D/XP11. It's literally the biggest concern and adjustment for those coming from commercial-focused sims. We'll never have the whole world but we really need more space to operate; especially if we ever want to include full-fidelity tankers/AWACS/Transport/Bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I too really hope that this opens the way for future westward expansion, and that that is the reason for the name change. PC Specs / Hardware: MSI z370 Gaming Plus Mainboard, Intel 8700k @ 5GHz, MSI Sea Hawk 2080 Ti @ 2100MHz, 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM Displays: Philips BDM4065UC 60Hz 4K UHD Screen, Pimax 8KX Controllers / Peripherals: VPC MongoosT-50, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, modded MS FFB2/CH Combatstick, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Gametrix JetSeat OS: Windows 10 Home Creator's Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangi Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 ....... It's instant name-recognition that is more appealing to a potential customer than a Strait no one has ever heard of..... Speak for yourself, I did basic geography. I do agree with the sentiment however. Unless there are plans to expand the map to include the whole area of the Persian Gulf (the scope of which is debatable, but definitely bigger than the map we have seen) then it is a little less descriptive of the product being sold than I would desire. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunctator Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I hope the new map will include the entire shore line of the Persian Gulf, without any detail, just as the Caucasus map includes the entire shore line of the Black Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) Speak for yourself, I did basic geography. I do agree with the sentiment however. Unless there are plans to expand the map to include the whole area of the Persian Gulf (the scope of which is debatable, but definitely bigger than the map we have seen) then it is a little less descriptive of the product being sold than I would desire. We all did out of the USA, don't blame them. Still it's true Persian Gulf is a way more appealing name which can lead to mistakes, we know how it is since development start though. I hope the new map will include the entire shore line of the Persian Gulf, without any detail, just as the Caucasus map includes the entire shore line of the Black Sea. That would be definitely really nice, but I don't think they'll go so far with the cache zone. S! Edited January 27, 2018 by Ala13_ManOWar "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 The theory of possible expansion fits well with the idea that ED is going to add to the NTTR map at some point in the future. My glass is definitely half full! :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 We all did out of the USA, don't blame them. S! oh good grief.... back on topic - I think the new name is more fitting, and hopefully more expansive. :thumbup: 1 MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodenameSection Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 One map that cover all of the Persian Gulf would be amazing although I won't be holding my breath for that to happen. I mean to even reach Iraq from the Strait of Hormuz you'd need to cover so much land it'd be big enough to be it's own terrain module (that's assuming that you'd want fully detailed space between the SoH and Iraq/Kuwait of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Fei Mao Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Better expand to Syria and parts of Turkey. Then Russian Jets have an exuse to intervene in.:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedlo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I think we're missing the biggest issue, which is the "Persian Gulf" vs "Arabian Gulf" nomenclature. :-) Whatever it's called, I'm looking forward to having it on my machine in the not too distant future. 1 My Youtube Channel MY DCS MISSIONS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 The real question is....How long after 2.5 release does This Map drop into Pre-Purchase???:D I do love the idea this map could open the door to other cities and countries in the region though :thumbup: Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenSkip Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) I've always wanted to blow up Iraqi tanks in my country, please ED :D, especially with the Kuwaiti F/A-18C now (even though we used A-4s during the war). If not Iraq, at least Kuwait, you'll have basically a full ~~Arabian~~ Gulf, and at least a site of a modern war for the first time! I can only imagine the scenarios! Iraqi Mi-8s, Mi-24s, MiG-21s, and Scud launchers and giant air defense networks all over. Belsimtek's F-4s and EDs Hornets do the SEAD/DEAD work. F-14s fly BARCAP over the Gulf. Hornets can also fly CAP/Strike (vice-versa) missions, all from an aircraft carrier. Then F-15s, A-10s, and F-4s fly from bases in Qatar/KSA. After which I liberate my country virtually :D Ok time to stop my drooling and wishful thinking lol. Edited January 29, 2018 by WarrenSkip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted January 29, 2018 ED Team Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) The change in name is for two primary reasons: 1- Gives us flexabilty to expand the map later 2- A much more recognizable name of the region When the map is made available for sale, it will be abundantly clear of the exact area covered by the map. Thanks Edited January 29, 2018 by NineLine Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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