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Much better, the A-9 :thumbup:

 

I would like a Spitfire Mk. 24. Everyone of course wants the most advanced version of their favorite a/c, but the point of the A-8 (or even the F-8) is to give us a variant more appropriate for the Normandy Map we have. The A-9 is no better than the D-9, it never flew over this map, it didn't start production until September '44. The Mk. 24 at least would have flown over this map, albeit in 1946....

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I would like a Spitfire Mk. 24. Everyone of course wants the most advanced version of their favorite a/c, but the point of the A-8 (or even the F-8) is to give us a variant more appropriate for the Normandy Map we have. The A-9 is no better than the D-9, it never flew over this map, it didn't start production until September '44. The Mk. 24 at least would have flown over this map, albeit in 1946....

 

 

Just a detail, as DCS is a SIMULATION.

The A-9 flew during WWII, not the Spit 24.

So no for the Spit 24, but I would nevertheless not be against a Seafire 47 for a Korea map.

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Let's keep this On Topic please gents; this is a discussion/research/information thread for the Fw 190A-8 and it's immediately related F-8.

 

Arguments about balanced plane-sets and other Fw variants or entirely different aircraft belong elsewhere.

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The A-9 fighter is more similar to the A-8 fighter than the F-8 attack aircraft btw.

 

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/241553-fw-190-a9/

 

Yes, well done, Christophe, it is a late war development of the Fw 190A series. I'm so glad you could point out such a frankly obvious nugget of information whilst completely missing the point of my post.

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Guys, relax. Not need to "want this, want the". Help me to find that panel. Photographs, blue prints, schematics, operation description.

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Damn, the A8 has a huge cockpit. I bet before the engine is running you have an echo in there :D

 

I was lucky enough to sit in a Fw 190A-8 last year( 2018 ). I'm 184 cm and for me getting into the cockpit was slightly troublesome. In order to close the canopy I had to bow my head and angle my shoulders. Below the railing the cockpit is pretty wide, so no problems there. When the canopy was closed and I had adjusted myself in the seat it was actually quite comfortable.

 

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Guys, relax. Not need to "want this, want the". Help me to find that panel. Photographs, blue prints, schematics, operation description.

 

Here are some pages from Ersatzteil Liste Fw-190-Band-4-Bewaffnung. You can find most of the information about the differences between bombing equipment in FW190 A8-F8-G8...

It looks what are you searching for is Drehumshchalter Fl E 5816 .... Take look also on SWA 10 device what is really specific for F8..:music_whistling:

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For me R30 looks a variant of the SWA 10 Auslöseschrittschaltwerk, which was also used to control the launch of R4M type rockets. If this photo is from a late war aircraft with Panzerblitz rockets installed it could explain the lack of documentation.

 

 

 

https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-50959-ausloeseschrittschaltwerk-swa-10-xii-1944-2

 

 

https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-50959-ausloeseschrittschaltwerk-swa-10-xii-1944

 

 

https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-50958-ausloeseschrittschaltwerk-swa-10b-1944

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For me R30 looks a variant of the SWA 10 Auslöseschrittschaltwerk, which was also used to control the launch of R4M type rockets. If this photo is from a late war aircraft with Panzerblitz rockets installed it could explain the lack of documentation.

 

 

 

https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-50959-ausloeseschrittschaltwerk-swa-10-xii-1944-2

 

 

https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-50959-ausloeseschrittschaltwerk-swa-10-xii-1944

 

 

https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-50958-ausloeseschrittschaltwerk-swa-10b-1944

 

That was also my fist idea but If I have understand the ersatzteile liste right SWA 10 was installed instead of fug 25 (see my previous post). Also I have in books some pictures from NASM F-8 where is clearly visible it is not a device but just one hole in base plate with turn switch (in bottom probably with some text plate - that is missing in NASM F8 )...I will try to scan that photo when I will have time...

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Here are some pages from Ersatzteil Liste Fw-190-Band-4-Bewaffnung.

 

Yes, indeed, you beat me to it! I've also been trawling through this document. My guess is that the I-II-III Drehumshchalter is for selecting the different underwing configurations, with the plate below in Coyote's image showing what the I-II-III positions are selecting (it looks like 3-4 tail-aspect versions of the aircraft with underwing stores marked). If so, then that lower part is an ancillary plate. That said, the whole box (incl. the bomb release mechanism to the right) is part of a single unit. In this case, it is unlikely to the an SWA-10.

 

Is there a version of Coyote's photograph without the red box?

 

I am also speculating here, but the R30 might actually be R3 plus some screw-head or photographic blemish. If so, is the R3 a reference to the Rüstsätze kit? I'm also looking at the "R?" on the panel above and the "S9" ("S1"?) on the panel to the right.

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Here are the promised photo sorry for quality I do not have possibility to scan them right now so I have made them with my mobile phone.... You can see it is part of base plate with hole for switch...

Those letters with numbers R30 and S1 was made by service crew to easier identify the instrument panels components in electrical schematics... It was more or less standard in FW 190, only the amount of use was not the same....

btw. NASM Fw 190F-8 is Rüstsätze kit R1...

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Yes, indeed, you beat me to it! I've also been trawling through this document. My guess is that the I-II-III Drehumshchalter is for selecting the different underwing configurations, with the plate below in Coyote's image showing what the I-II-III positions are selecting (it looks like 3-4 tail-aspect versions of the aircraft with underwing stores marked). If so, then that lower part is an ancillary plate. That said, the whole box (incl. the bomb release mechanism to the right) is part of a single unit. In this case, it is unlikely to the an SWA-10.

 

Is there a version of Coyote's photograph without the red box?

 

I am also speculating here, but the R30 might actually be R3 plus some screw-head or photographic blemish. If so, is the R3 a reference to the Rüstsätze kit? I'm also looking at the "R?" on the panel above and the "S9" ("S1"?) on the panel to the right.

 

guys, this is getting a little clearer. In the diagram we see the plate for the accommodation of instruments to control the outboard weapons. The view of the plate on the side. We see that the SWA 10 XII is fixed on the reverse side. On the front side there is only a switch (doubler), and below there is a place for a table with suspension options. Three questions. Who will be able to photograph the plate from the back side in the Museum? Who will be able to find a description of the operation of the device 10 SWA XII? Who will be able to find a table diagram of a suspension switch. I'm attaching everything.

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Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book:

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