Deadman Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 The Altimeter in the A-10 A & C models, is the AAU-34A same as the F-16 Very hard to find these days and I don't know of any one that make a replica here is he spec sheet from Kollman. http://www.kollsman.com/downloads/Altimeter%20AAU%2034A.pdf 1 https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLaFaille Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Excellent, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 No problem your welcome what do you plan on doing make one Glass or analogue? https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLaFaille Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) I actually haven't decided yet. Ideally I'd like to keep the analog gauges analog but for the HSI and especially the ADI that's nearly impossible to do, so those will likely be a software implementation. The altimeter seems at least plausible to make analog. This however is a very novel and interesting solution to the ADI which you may have seen. http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=1062.msg87786#msg87786 (more info a few pages later also) Red Edited March 16, 2011 by KLaFaille Linkage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brydling Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Hi Deadman, Great work! Can you use SketchUp as a CAD-tool for generating input files to CNC-machines and such? I am learning Inventor right now to be able to make the MFCD bezels. I am planning on letting some company mill one for me in MDF and then I will use that one to make a silicone mold. My question to you is, do you have any real measurements on the bezels? Niclas Digital-to-Synchro converter for interfacing real aircraft instruments - Thread Check out my High Input Count Joystick Controller for cockpit builders, with support for 248 switches, 2 POV hats and 13 analog axes. Over 60 units sold. - B256A13 www.novelair.com - The world's most realistic flight simulators of the J35J Draken and the AJS37 Viggen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hog_driver111th Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 It's a little pricey, but here's something I've been looking at for the altimeter... along with the VVI and a few others (even the compass looks good). http://www.simkits.com/product.php?prodid=1008 A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 As Far as I know that can be done with Sketch up pro for the CNC. The measurements for the Bezels yes I am working on a set now :thumbup: Hi Deadman, Great work! Can you use SketchUp as a CAD-tool for generating input files to CNC-machines and such? I am learning Inventor right now to be able to make the MFCD bezels. I am planning on letting some company mill one for me in MDF and then I will use that one to make a silicone mold. My question to you is, do you have any real measurements on the bezels? Niclas https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Hey Hog yes they look great for a Cessna :smilewink: but its nothing close to the AAU 34/A They sold kits that were cheaper before I can't seam to find them now Edited March 16, 2011 by Deadman https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) That is a great option the only problem right now with it is to get the monitor to fit behind it on the dash. I actually haven't decided yet. Ideally I'd like to keep the analog gauges analog but for the HSI and especially the ADI that's nearly impossible to do, so those will likely be a software implementation. The altimeter seems at least plausible to make analog. This however is a very novel and interesting solution to the ADI which you may have seen. http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=1062.msg87786#msg87786 (more info a few pages later also) Red Edited March 16, 2011 by Deadman https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hog_driver111th Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Deadman, any idea where the best place is to buy the standby avionics (alt, VVI, airspeed...)? The only place I've found that does USB versions instead of actual aircraft avionics is at simkits. A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 At this point it time iI don't thing any one is making any military style simulator avionics for commercial sale. The best were made by Leo at B.I as far as I know he no longer make IO boards or avionics for sale.These are complicated systems for the DIY you can get severial books at Mikes flight deck where he is working on a new book http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/default.html My approach from the days we flew at the 44th and before has been to collect real controls and instruments to convert to simulator use. There are some thing though you just can't purchase such as the main instrument panel (Dash) or the bezels( I know TM makes the one for the F-16 there to small) witch are my current projects. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLaFaille Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) The nice thing about the TM MFDs is they'll allow fairly easy interfacing with an A-10C bezel. I plan on hacking a pair of TMs for the controllers then source switches and make a custom PCB. Deadman, I spent about 5 hours last night researching the ADI and basically came up with if being an ARU-2B/A. Am I correct in that? Problem is, they were built to MIL-I-27193 which doesn't exist online that I can find so I couldn't find proper dimensions. If you'd be willing I'd appreciate it if you could share the dims of the case and the sizing and location dims of the mounting screws. I found the MIL drawings for the VSI case and HSI so I'm set with those and that's helping immensely with dimensioning the IP. There's a set of two ADIs on eBay now, but the seller wants almost 5k. Him and another seller (art in parts) are out of their gourds, art-in-parts wants hundreds for gauges that were clearly involved in crashes. I've found some good deals though, even if my wife doesn't agree! Red Edited March 16, 2011 by KLaFaille iPhone typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brydling Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 As Far as I know that can be done with Sketch up pro for the CNC. The measurements for the Bezels yes I am working on a set now :thumbup: Nice! Do you mind sharing the dimensions? Digital-to-Synchro converter for interfacing real aircraft instruments - Thread Check out my High Input Count Joystick Controller for cockpit builders, with support for 248 switches, 2 POV hats and 13 analog axes. Over 60 units sold. - B256A13 www.novelair.com - The world's most realistic flight simulators of the J35J Draken and the AJS37 Viggen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 The nice thing about the TM MFDs is they'll allow fairly easy interfacing with an A-10C bezel. I plan on hacking a pair of TMs for the controllers then source switches and make a custom PCB Red The problem with this is the TM MFDs are short a switch and a rotary I have no way to confirm that is the correct unit for the A-10 I have an ARU-11 and it looks the same I all so have a simulator model that does not have any markings. on dimensions I really don't have time right now to measure out everything but the units is 5 inches wide and 5.25 wide for the holes i will see if i can get some time art in parts is normally way high in prices If you shoot me a copy of you Mil drawing on the HSI i can check it to see if it is the same as my unit Right now i am still getting the bugs out of the MIP(Dash) and the MFCD Bezels after i get some made and they fit i may release some thing but I realy don't need some one cussing me because my drawing are off 0.0025mm some place lol Thanks https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLaFaille Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Thanks Please don't go out of way, if you get to it that's cool, if not no biggie. I'll admit I'm pretty anal when it comes to things being as close to real as possible, I have keep in mind that a lot of this stuff ends up being semi-educated guesses or whatever looks as close to the real thing. It's tough sometimes when there is so little solid data out there. I did find a few documents that listed the ADI and HSI by part number as being installed on the A models. I'll send you that HSI print when I get home from work. You're right too, there would always be someone that would bitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLaFaille Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 HIS DIMS HSI DIMS for HSI called out for use in A-10A model. Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brydling Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 on dimensions I really don't have time right now to measure out everything but the units is 5 inches wide and 5.25 wide for the holes i will see if i can get some time Ok, I will ask again sometime in the future to see if you have got the dimensions ready by then :) Do you mean that the whole MFCD unit is 5 inches wide? I thought that the screen area was 5x5 inches. Digital-to-Synchro converter for interfacing real aircraft instruments - Thread Check out my High Input Count Joystick Controller for cockpit builders, with support for 248 switches, 2 POV hats and 13 analog axes. Over 60 units sold. - B256A13 www.novelair.com - The world's most realistic flight simulators of the J35J Draken and the AJS37 Viggen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLaFaille Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 The dims he is referring to are for the ADI bezel & case that I had asked him for earlier. Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brydling Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Oh, sorry about that! Digital-to-Synchro converter for interfacing real aircraft instruments - Thread Check out my High Input Count Joystick Controller for cockpit builders, with support for 248 switches, 2 POV hats and 13 analog axes. Over 60 units sold. - B256A13 www.novelair.com - The world's most realistic flight simulators of the J35J Draken and the AJS37 Viggen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hog_driver111th Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Deadman, I'd buy this right now if I had the money and knew how to hook it up to work with the sim... but thought I'd show it to you. ADI http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sperry-Vertical-Situation-Indicator-ADI-/230596467561?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item35b09edb69 HSI http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HSI-HORIZONTAL-SITUATION-INDICATOR-P-N-116730-/310170261957?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item48379699c5 Edited March 18, 2011 by hog_driver111th A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Hey Hog The ADI is incorrect the same seller had a correct style in a simulator version for sale $350.00 but he has shipping problems from his location. That HSI is corect but has sold on eBay for as little as $150.00. Personal i I thing most people will not invest the time or money in to real instruments But hey what do I know:smilewink: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hog_driver111th Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 yeah I wouldn't buy real stuff unless it was a great deal. I have no idea how to hook the real stuff up to the PC anyway with the type of plugs they use. A-10C - FC3 - CA - L-39 - UH1 - P-51 - Hawk - BS2 - F-86 - Gazelle - F-5E - AV8B - F/A-18C i5-4590 - GTX 1060 - Oculus CV1 - TM:Warthog [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic9979_1.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 OK https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 I made a substantial investment and purchased several simulator parts the Laste is real and so is the AN/ACR 164. What do you guys think there worth? I may have an extra part or to when i am done. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanelBuilder Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I made a substantial investment and purchased several simulator parts the Laste is real and so is the AN/ACR 164. What do you guys think there worth? I may have an extra part or to when i am done. Wow! This is amazing! Where do you get this stuff? Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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