Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight help with vertical takeoff - Page 2 - ED Forums
 


Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-24-2015, 12:28 PM   #11
Nirvi
ED Translator / Moderator
 
Nirvi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 1,506
Default

Threads merged
Nirvi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 01:29 PM   #12
gospadin
ED Testers Team
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: 'Murica
Posts: 1,955
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Trooper View Post
As mentioned pitch stabilization is essential with the MI-8. Also trim the cyclic slightly back and slightly right before take off.
You'll need significantly more "back" on the cyclic if fully loaded.
gospadin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 03:11 PM   #13
Cibit
Veteran
 
Cibit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northumberland. UK
Posts: 4,240
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by itye1970 View Post
Hi all

Im having trouble doing a vertical take off with the MI-8. Ive flown the huey a few times and can do vertical take off no probs but with the MI-8 I can get it off the ground but it seems to go forward like a fixed wing before it takes off? Am i doing something wrong?

It seems to travel forwards before take off

Thanks in advance
Made this for you hope it helps
__________________
i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 16Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64

Cibit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 06:13 PM   #14
Flamin_Squirrel
Senior Member
 
Flamin_Squirrel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 1,336
Default

I personally wouldn't recommend trimming at takeoff, simply because if you always start with neutral trim then you'll start off with the controls in the same place every time; but that's my preference.

Either way though, the way to lift in a helo is to SLOWLY raise the collective while rocking the collective (gently) forward/back, left/right (and pedals) to feel for the point where the helo will lift straight into the air.

Oh and the Mi-8 won't necessarily hover level with the horizon; this is normal, but can provide a bit of an illusion.
Flamin_Squirrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 07:40 AM   #15
Cibit
Veteran
 
Cibit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northumberland. UK
Posts: 4,240
Default

Perhaps a video or track of your method would be useful. I can't imagine not trimming to take off vertically. Or not trimming to come to a hover
__________________
i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 16Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64

Cibit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 07:54 AM   #16
itye1970
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 41
Default

I did it, I trimmed the cyclic to slightly lower right of center and slowly applied the collective and it was not a bad take off!

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We-wTIWuUhM[/ame]
itye1970 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 05:13 PM   #17
Flamin_Squirrel
Senior Member
 
Flamin_Squirrel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 1,336
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cibit View Post
Perhaps a video or track of your method would be useful. I can't imagine not trimming to take off vertically. Or not trimming to come to a hover
No problem, I've attached a track to this thread. It's a quick circuit, no trimming at any point.

One thing I noticed when doing this, using the quick free flight mission, is that the wind is coming from behind you at the start. This will of course make the tendency to drift forward all that much stronger.

Helicopters can hover, but they should always be pointed into wind for takeoff and landing; it's easier and safer. Easy to forget when simming though.
Attached Files
File Type: trk mi8.trk (760.0 KB, 29 views)
Flamin_Squirrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2015, 02:48 PM   #18
Cibit
Veteran
 
Cibit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northumberland. UK
Posts: 4,240
Default

I guess the trk is corrupt, you took off,got clear of airport buildings, touched ground 3 times and then lost your rotor blades in a banking turn too close to the water
__________________
i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 16Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64

Cibit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2015, 06:55 PM   #19
Flamin_Squirrel
Senior Member
 
Flamin_Squirrel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 1,336
Default

It still plays fine my end. Retry the download?
Flamin_Squirrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
mi-8, mi8, takeoff, vertical

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT. The time now is 07:37 PM. vBulletin Skin by ForumMonkeys. Powered by vBulletin®.
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.