Snoopy Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 It'll probably be close to the end of the month. Standing up the 510th (our Hornet Squadron) and some real life items have kept me from being able to put the time into the PG FLIP like I liked. I'm also awaiting some information on a couple airbases (real world stuff) to move forward. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biga42 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Great job! Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Hello Snoopy, Did you find some time to progress on those PG charts? Thanks for your hard work for the community! https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Hello Snoopy, Did you find some time to progress on those PG charts? Thanks for your hard work for the community! Yup been working on them the last few days but no anticipated release date. I am going to separate it into two documents. UAE and Oman in one and Iran in the other. UAE and Oman will be the first one done. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 Work continues, just a sneak peak of two items from Al Dhafra. TACAN 13L Airport Diagram v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blech Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Hi, Thanks for the info :book: And I hope we will get some day for the F/A-18C something like "746th´s COMBAT AIRCRAFT FUNDAMENTALS A-10C" Including the know-how for realistic weapon payloads and delivery/combat technics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Can't wait for some proper charts for my ATC work 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwd2 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 @Snoopy on your Airport Diagram, the C taxiway consistent not with InGame taxiway, there it is H. Playing: F-16C Intel i7-13700KF, 64GB DDR5 @5600MHz, RTX 4080 ZOTAC Trinity, WIN 11 64Bit Prof. Squadron "Serious Uglies" / Discord-Server: https://discord.gg/2WccwBh Ghost0815 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 @Snoopy on your Airport Diagram, the C taxiway consistent not with InGame taxiway, there it is H. What airfield? If you’re talking Al Dhafra my chart is based on the real information, what is in DCS is not. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwd2 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Yes, Al Dhafra. Good to know. Playing: F-16C Intel i7-13700KF, 64GB DDR5 @5600MHz, RTX 4080 ZOTAC Trinity, WIN 11 64Bit Prof. Squadron "Serious Uglies" / Discord-Server: https://discord.gg/2WccwBh Ghost0815 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 Yes, Al Dhafra. Good to know. I supplied ED with the real world information so hopefully they’ll update accordingly. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 What airfield? If you’re talking Al Dhafra my chart is based on the real information, what is in DCS is not. Well, if it is the real information needed, there should be a way to get our hands on the Jeppesen (assuming they have those airports). What is needed regarding PG docs is what is actually in game, not IRL. https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) Well, if it is the real information needed, there should be a way to get our hands on the Jeppesen (assuming they have those airports). What is needed regarding PG docs is what is actually in game, not IRL. That’s your opinion, if you feel that way don’t use the charts that I make specifically for the 476 vFG but share with the community. Create your own, no one is forcing you to use our stuff. Edited September 4, 2018 by Snoopy v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Sorry Snoopy. I didn't want to offend you. I appreciate you are sharing your hard work with the community. It is quite remarkable. Let me just explain my point in a less offensive way. :) I understand the quest for realism, but there is, in DCS maps, some amount of discrepancy with IRL that you can't avoid. It is quite strong for Caucasus, not as much for PG though. But still, it exists. So say I am using IRL docs to find my way on an airport or direct my flight to the active runway. I am looking at my taxiway chart and I can see that I have to go through Hotel then Charlie and hold short Alpha. Next move for me and the others will be to follow the signs in game. Problem, ED got the Taxiway names wrong like what mwd2 highlighted, and they have no intention to correct this. This kinda kills the immersion, don't you think? Same for QFU. In Caucasus, they are completely wrong wrt IRL. So yes, IRL QFU for a given runway might be 07, but what's painted on the DCS runway is actually 06. Isn't it better to ask for a 06 clearance then? I assume PG QFUs are pretty accurate (didn't check actually) but if, in the coming years, they have to change numbers due to magnetic declination changes, I am pretty sure that ED will not bother at all about that. Will you change your doc to reflect IRL despite that? https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) Sorry Snoopy. I didn't want to offend you. I appreciate you are sharing your hard work with the community. It is quite remarkable. Let me just explain my point in a less offensive way. :) I understand the quest for realism, but there is, in DCS maps, some amount of discrepancy with IRL that you can't avoid. It is quite strong for Caucasus, not as much for PG though. But still, it exists. So say I am using IRL docs to find my way on an airport or direct my flight to the active runway. I am looking at my taxiway chart and I can see that I have to go through Hotel then Charlie and hold short Alpha. Next move for me and the others will be to follow the signs in game. Problem, ED got the Taxiway names wrong like what mwd2 highlighted, and they have no intention to correct this. This kinda kills the immersion, don't you think? Same for QFU. In Caucasus, they are completely wrong wrt IRL. So yes, IRL QFU for a given runway might be 07, but what's painted on the DCS runway is actually 06. Isn't it better to ask for a 06 clearance then? I assume PG QFUs are pretty accurate (didn't check actually) but if, in the coming years, they have to change numbers due to magnetic declination changes, I am pretty sure that ED will not bother at all about that. Will you change your doc to reflect IRL despite that? I see what you're saying but we'll agree to disagree. As I've already said, no one is forcing you to use the 476th FLIPS. I don't have to share this work with the community but the 476th vFG has always been about sharing 99% of what we develop (IE range objects, A-10C3.3, Stuka's NTTR mission, etc). ED hasn't labeled the majority of Al Dhafra taxiways so even if I did label them to match in game the airport diagram would be mostly empty and useless based on your reasoning anyways. I'm creating them with the hope that ED will use the information I provided them and make Al Dhafra information correct. Edited September 4, 2018 by Snoopy v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 That's cool man. I think the delta between PG and IRL will not be a huge immersion killer as it is much smaller than with Caucasus. And as you said, PG is not finished yet so there are opportunities to have some convergence at the end of the day, and use IRL doc without noticing any discrepancies. https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 and use IRL doc without noticing any discrepancies. I can' tell you without a doubt you can't just use real world documents for any map created by ED. Every FLIP we've made (Russia, Georgia, Nevada, PG) all required extensive updating from what real world documents show. Same reason the charts for Nevada ED included aren't accurate to the sim. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladMordock Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I have two questions about this great publications: https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApHW0_clkjG-g_5ZTxAp8OGYPl2zLw How to read this 5100 - this does not fir for me the vertical profile? How to read the Categories, how to use it in DCS? Great thanks in advance for help! :smilewink: Zapraszam na Gildia.org - polska społeczność DCS. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Lima Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) A category is Stall speed times 1,3 https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/category+of+aircraft+classification or her https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_approach_category There is a mistake in the Approach first you can not descend lower than 6000 it's underline the line above is the max altitude in MSL and then its 5300 MSL. In this case, I read 6000 descend to 5100 then climb back to 5300 and this makes not really logic. I rewrite all this with notes and correctet the altitudes, there are few mistakes in the outer approach charts as well. The approach charts not bad. Her you have some usfull information about Approach Charts https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/aero_guide/media/editions/cug-tpp-edition.pdf How an approach build with all clearance segmenst and math calculations. https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/FAA_Order_8260.3C.pdf Example, you can not have IF and IAF on the same position her explaine it why http://aviation_dictionary.enacademic.com/3873/intermediate_approach_segment At all are not bad charts Some good information from real procedures, if you have a bad weather and allows only an ILS approach and the winds come from the outer side where is no ILS you can fly the ILS until you see the Runway at you V for Visual Approach and Circle to the outer Runway in the specified category. You fly the approach with Category B and circling at altitude 2500 MSL with the visibility of 2 1/2 Miles. But you can forget this type of approaches the ILS works only in DCS World where the wind comes from. CIRCLING APPROACH Regards Tango Lima/Scorpion Edited October 28, 2018 by Thomas Loeffelmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladMordock Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Regards Tango Lima/Scorpion Thank you! This is impressive reply, I will study all the provided information. :smartass: Zapraszam na Gildia.org - polska społeczność DCS. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLibrary Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 any news on the persian gulf pubs? looking forward to use these aka WarLord DCSFlightpanels DCS-BIOS Fork DCSFlightpanels arduino-library DCSFlightpanels DCSFlightpanels-Profiles DCS FP / BIOS Discord Server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colo Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Hi Snoopy, may I use your maps in my aInstruments app ? If yes, what are the terms/conditions ? Is it enough to mention your names/website in my app or to give you some free promo codes for app ? Thanx colo Intel Core i7 11700, 32 GB RAM, Nvidia RTX 4090, NVMe 3 TB, VR HP Reverb G2, Thrustmaster Warthog + pedals, Cougar MFDs, TrackIR, aInstruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 Hi Snoopy, may I use your maps in my aInstruments app ? If yes, what are the terms/conditions ? Is it enough to mention your names/website in my app or to give you some free promo codes for app ? Thanx colo As long as we’re given credit feel free to use however you’d like. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website | v303rd Fighter Group Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma6584 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 This is incredible work. Thanks for sharing this with the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colo Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 As long as we’re given credit feel free to use however you’d like. Hi, sorry for late answer, Thank you for permission, I will implement maps and I will credit you in App and also on my website. colo Intel Core i7 11700, 32 GB RAM, Nvidia RTX 4090, NVMe 3 TB, VR HP Reverb G2, Thrustmaster Warthog + pedals, Cougar MFDs, TrackIR, aInstruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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