etherbattx Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 how are you measuring ram usage? committed? working set? private bytes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Interesting thread, is there a consensus as yet? 16 or 32? "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 32GB, just search the forum how many guys had erros and what not else...put in another 16GB and the sun came out again. Sure, it runs with 16GB too, just how well and reliable throughout an array of missions SP & MP is a big ?. Go 32 is my best and honest advice. You only do 16GB if you really cannot afford it for now, that is the only excuse. edit: and yes..my next rig is 64 or 128GB. The cheaper RAM is the more I will put in. This like a 1200cc Turbo 13:1 compression engine that fails after 50k km, make it a 2.7L V6 with 9:1 and lower temps and it'll run 500k km. Dont press too much, not on an engine and not on RAM, they WILL let you down. Edited September 23, 2018 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 wasn't there supposed to be a patch to normalize RAM usage? [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomer Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) RECOMMENDED VR SYSTEMS REQUIREMENTS (VR GRAPHICS SETTINGS): OS 64-bit Windows 7/8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i5+ at 3+ GHz; RAM: 32GB; Hard disk space: 60 GB on Solid State Drive (SSD); Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 / ATI RX480 DirectX11 or better; Joystick; requires internet activation. The VR recommended specs are 32GB`s of ram, with the non VR version recommending the same 32 gigs of ram for multiplayer RECOMMENDED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS (HIGH GRAPHICS SETTINGS): OS 64-bit Windows 7/8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i5+ at 3+ GHz; RAM: 16GB (32 GB for multiplayer); Hard disk space: 60 GB on Solid State Drive (SSD); Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 / ATI R9 Fury DirectX11 or better; Joystick; requires internet activation. I have 24 gigs of vengeance pro ram, but can experience an occasional freeze in VR (rift) running a 1070, i7 4790K and EVO SSD. Ram usage usually sits around the 16 gig mark. In the process of picking up an extra 8 GB on ebay... and likely a used 1080ti at some stage, then sell the 1070 (Zotac amp extreme). Edited September 24, 2018 by Zoomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) When in editor for a while memory usage can get pretty high 12G+ RAM: Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it ? Edited September 24, 2018 by Johnny_Rico METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 wasn't there supposed to be a patch to normalize RAM usage? I think those numbers are with the patch !? Last thing I know it came with a one of the patches 1-2 months ago iirc. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 wow and I thought 32 GB was massive overkill when I built this system last year. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I bought this pack in 32GB actually for VMware usage and future proofing the rig as I know how hard it can be to find another 16GB 2 years later if you find out you need them. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 wasn't there supposed to be a patch to normalize RAM usage? They patched the System Requirements :megalol: Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 16gb RAM and a fast SSD and you'll be fine so long as your pagefile is configured correctly, I'd like to get 32gb soon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 They patched the System Requirements :megalol: lols :thumbup: METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 :D [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Ive been getting a DCS crash every single time I fly BF. Its always a few minutes after loading into an aircraft (refueling). Could it be RAM (or lack of)? I have 16gb 3200, i58600K, 1080ti. Most settings maxed out. Doesnt happen in SP or on the 104th. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottc26 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Ive been getting a DCS crash every single time I fly BF. Its always a few minutes after loading into an aircraft (refueling). Could it be RAM (or lack of)? I have 16gb 3200, i58600K, 1080ti. Most settings maxed out. Doesnt happen in SP or on the 104th. I would check your page file is set to system managed. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Gumbo's Flying Circus - Visit Twitch to Watch! PC Specs: 2700x @ 4Ghz, 32Gb 3200 DDR4, 8GB Palit RTX 2080, Intel SSD7 NvMe, Samsung 860 Evo SSD, AOC G2460PF 144hz 1ms 1080p Freesync monitor, Windows 10 Home 64-bit, Thrustmaster Warthog, TrackHat :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 If you have many Hard Pagefaults, then even a SwapFile is not enough. Every HPF while you use DCS is a clear indicator that you lack memory. You can put many things on a PF and it wont cause any itching, just when you end up pumping data on & off the PF during a flight, that is called HPF, you have a BOTTLENECK in I/O. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 If you have many Hard Pagefaults, then even a SwapFile is not enough. Every HPF while you use DCS is a clear indicator that you lack memory. You can put many things on a PF and it wont cause any itching, just when you end up pumping data on & off the PF during a flight, that is called HPF, you have a BOTTLENECK in I/O. with latencymon latest version 6.72 it always show HPF on my end even tough I have 32gb of ram, even by putting 100gb as pagefile it always shows hardpage fault. CPU : Intel i7 8700k@5.0ghz cooled by Noctua NH-D15 / Motherboard:Asorck Z370 Taichi / RAM: 32GB GSkill TridentZ @3600mhz / SSD: 500GB Nvme Samsung 970 evo+1 TB Sabrent Nvme M2 / GPU:Asus Strix OC 2080TI / Monitor: LG 34KG950F Ultrawide / Trackir 5 proclip/ VIRPIL CM2 BASE + CM2 GRIP + F148 GRIP + 200M EXTENSION /VKB T-Rudder MKIV rudder /Case: Fractal Design R6 Define black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 This from latencymon 6.70 ( newest i could find ). Fa18 PG freeflight 5min through the skyscrapers down low. All green with latency but Windows Defender seems to be causing my HPF's. Not an issue I guess, I should disable RealTimeScan and check again. I guess, with many HPF's for things like Defender it really pays if you have a SSD for swapping. A slow HDD could be an issue then, dunno. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution. NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit. Process with highest pagefault count: msmpeng.exe Total number of hard pagefaults 80798 Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 72220 Number of processes hit: 29 Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) haha..here is one without MS Defender...either I need a new test app or we have to stop at this point. The good thing is, it's not DCS and the number of HPF's is lower, tho the flights where not 100% the same, just about same time length and low level downtown PG ending with a crash, some F2 and F3 views in between, no F10 map btw. here's the Stats HPF log snipped: _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution. NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit. Process with highest pagefault count: latmon.exe Total number of hard pagefaults 3474 Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 3440 Number of processes hit: 10 ---edit: I used Ressource Monitor from within task manager to show me the HPF's. It showed only 2, both were DCS. I did about the same flight, just more intense, fired weapons and some more stupid stuff. even more strange: I did another run with RealTimeScan back to ON and measured HPF's again in Res.Monitor. It only showed 2, DCS, not 80k. Maybe both results are true, maybe not. I have no idea what Defender does while you run DCS. I will keep an eye on it with ResMonitor. Maybe LatencyMon is not true because it interferes too much with the measuring, I dont know atm tbh. Edited September 28, 2018 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 My gpu is the bottleneck and cant be replaced(laptop). Will doubling my 16gb RAM allow me to push higher settings or am I screwed until I build a new system? Thank you Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Some laptop GPUs can be replaced, depends on how it's made, they're horrendously expensive, though. If your pegging out and can't do upgrades, it's unlikely RAM alone will buy you much unless you're crashing due to shortage Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 My gpu is the bottleneck and cant be replaced(laptop). Will doubling my 16gb RAM allow me to push higher settings or am I screwed until I build a new system? Thank you While 32 GB might, and I mean might, show a slight improvement, it is highly unlikely to be worth the investment. Save your money for a new laptop, or better yet, build a desktop machine. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Well the card is a 960m, and it uses the intel GPU in tandem, it has an extremely powerful cooling system if you keep it clean. So it’s not completely bad, just anything above 1080p or VR won’t work. I needed the laptop for my job but knew I might need somewhat good GPU, so it was a compromise. Thanks for the advice Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Well the card is a 960m, and it uses the intel GPU in tandem, it has an extremely powerful cooling system if you keep it clean. So it’s not completely bad, just anything above 1080p or VR won’t work. I needed the laptop for my job but knew I might need somewhat good GPU, so it was a compromise. Thanks for the advice That's a mid-range card and those were soldered on laptop mainboards so that's not upgradeable directly. I also doubt such a laptop has a Thunderbolt 2/3 port either? The only other alternative would be to use some expansion card port (e.g. an M.2 PCI-E slot or an express card slot or some mini PCI-E slot) to connect to an external desktop GPU card via some 3rd party adapter card, but those can be tricky to get working. Edited October 1, 2018 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroedi Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) The GTX 960M is way to slow, it has half the power of the desktop gtx 960. http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-960/m27242vs3165 Edited October 1, 2018 by schroedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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